12 quit on I-Day

I'm pretty sure on I Day I'm not sure when exactly they said the class size was either 1192 or 1198.
 
1192 is the number the superintendent showed during his 230PM Parent's presentation on I-Day
 
Rossi said:
1192 is the number the superintendent showed during his 230PM Parent's presentation on I-Day
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^^^ Interesting--wonder how/when the mid system is set up for incoming classes as it seems to be off by 8. Had my mid pull numbers for the 4 classes just for fun. The system shows the following numbers.

2015: Entered--1,274 Currently enrolled--1,087
2016: Entered--1,225 Currently enrolled--1,116
2017: Entered--1,215 Currently enrolled--1,144
2018: Entered--1,200 Currently enrolled--1,191
 
COmom said:
^^^ Interesting--wonder how/when the mid system is set up for incoming classes as it seems to be off by 8. Had my mid pull numbers for the 4 classes just for fun. The system shows the following numbers.

2015: Entered--1,274 Currently enrolled--1,087
2016: Entered--1,225 Currently enrolled--1,116
2017: Entered--1,215 Currently enrolled--1,144
2018: Entered--1,200 Currently enrolled--1,191
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So my Coast Guard Academy class loses a much higher percentage than zoomie classes? I was expecting a bigger drop at AFA. We lost about 100 (from a starting class of 300ish)…..
 
LineInTheSand said:
So my Coast Guard Academy class loses a much higher percentage than zoomie classes? I was expecting a bigger drop at AFA. We lost about 100 (from a starting class of 300ish)…..
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I believe those are USNA numbers.....NOT USAFA.
 
As the parent of a newly-minted Ensign, I can tell you that getting the appointment and the big fat envelope is the easy part. Next 'easiest' is Plebe Summer - no academic pressure. They learn to rely on each other for emotional, and sometimes physical, support during Plebe Summer. For example, you probably won't see your kids being supported by or supporting their shipmates to finish the obstacle course, but it is happening. Time management and prioritization skills are being formed and sharpened because they'll need it when the fall semester starts. More may decide that the academy isn't for them as they go through those stages. It often takes courage to make that decision.
 
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You ask a great question, and for some of the kids, the answer is that they went through all the hoops for their parents. I saw the same thing when my sons went to USMMA - a number of young men and women left very quickly, as it had not really been their dream, it was their parents' dream. When faced with the reality on I-Day they do what they feel is right for them.

I actually spoke to a recruited athlete who elected to leave after the first couple of days. He said he had not felt such relief since the process had begun - it started with a recruiting call from a coach and quickly became his parents' goal. He felt steamrolled, but when push came to shove and he had reported, he decided it was not right for him and he left.
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That's my answer and insight at least as far as the USMMA kids I've been an admissions field rep for - I strongly believe to get through any of the SA's in the full four years, you have to at some point decide and want to do it "for you/yourself." Also remember throughout the whole four years a mid is trained to take responsibility and ownership of their own actions and be a leader. So if they are just attending to please someone else, when they take to heart that message and training they are just as likely to quit and go do what they really want to do as to finish.
 
LineInTheSand said:
First day (or first week) drop outs tend to be the folks who weren't fully aware of what they were joining.

"They're yelling at us!"

You would be surprised find find out some people don't know much about the actually school they plan to attend. That first day or first week can be quite the shock! :eek:
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Always amazes me how clueless some our in 2008 when our DS reported for INDOC at USMMA there was a young woman who clearly was a clueless as Goldie Hawn in "Private Benjamin" as to what she was now part of - her six inch platform heels and Armani Sundress were a little out of place and my clue...I believe she actually made it through week 1 but then realized it was not her kind of place....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e58Yg_vS3w
 
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But hey, they all probably scored really high on their standardized tests to get in.....all brains, no brawn! Probably need both to make it.
 
No disrespect intended...

But "Getting in is the easy part" is a generalization, not true for many. If one does indeed "Get in" then it may work out that way for them.

There are many deserving, qualified, and extremely disappointed kids that did not "get in." There were principal nominees that did not "get in." There were perfect SAT scoring applicants that did not "get in." There were some legacy kids that were qualified that did not "get in."

So, I don't see how it can be said that "getting in is the easy part".
 
Getting in is the easy part for anyone who can get in. Maybe it's "getting in is easier than graduating" or "getting in is the less hard part".

But in general, "getting in is the easy part" is reserved for the kids who can "get in."
 
I wrote about this at length in the days where this site was brand new.

Too many parents try to live the experience through their kids, and they just can't. Too many parents push their kids to do things the parents want rather than the kid. That doesn't work, either.

Some kids never fully appreciate what they are signing up for. 12 in a day? That's an awful lot, if memory serves.

Kids crying? Yeah. BTDT, except I got to taste it in a boarding school in fifth grade, so by the time USNA rolled around, it was nothing.

But I do remember my roomie and I crying together one day at NAPS, which was truly a shock to our systems back then. Nothing wrong with it.

The lesson is in bucking up and going forward. It can be tough for those who never left home earlier or who are there for the wrong reasons.

Did they take another's slot? Yeah, maybe. OTOH, if the other guy had been good enough, he would have gotten the appointment instead, so...

The moral of the story? Life's tough...
 
LineInTheSand said:
Getting in is the easy part for anyone who can get in. Maybe it's "getting in is easier than graduating" or "getting in is the less hard part".

But in general, "getting in is the easy part" is reserved for the kids who can "get in."
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This is what I've always told kids who inform me that they've gotten in...

"Congratulations! So, now that the easy stuff is out of the way..."

Watching their faces fall is a guilty treat, but it's better that they learn before fat old Zaphod than in front of a howling Detailer...
 
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