AFROTC EA due date

Col. Wydra said absolutely NOTHING about FT being canceled. I believe that if you're a cadet on this forum, the core values (like INTEGRITY) still apply. He did not say that. He said that numbers will be lower than last year SO if some 200s that were in the crowd don't get an EA they shouldn't take it personally and know that they worked really hard.

I repeat: Col Wydra DID NOT SAY THERE WAS A CHANCE FT WOULD E CANCELED.
 
That was some pretty good trolling. Its pretty obvious though.. come on.. no way AFROTC would cancel FT because that wouldn't meet the amount of officers they need in 2016 when these cadets commission.
 
Col. Wydra said absolutely NOTHING about FT being canceled. I believe that if you're a cadet on this forum, the core values (like INTEGRITY) still apply. He did not say that. He said that numbers will be lower than last year SO if some 200s that were in the crowd don't get an EA they shouldn't take it personally and know that they worked really hard.

I repeat: Col Wydra DID NOT SAY THERE WAS A CHANCE FT WOULD E CANCELED.


If anybody's paid any attention to Pima's posts over the last year then you would already be aware the EA percentages from 2013 of 91-92% were a huge increase from previous years and definitely NOT the norm.

From what I understand the NORM is ~55% selection rate for EA's and that last years numbers were way above the norm.

Therefore if Col Wydra stated that they would be lower than last year there still is a chance that they while lower than last year....are possible still higher than what has been the "norm" of years past of 55%.

PIMA....help me out a little here...
 
If anybody's paid any attention to Pima's posts over the last year then you would already be aware the EA percentages from 2013 of 91-92% were a huge increase from previous years and definitely NOT the norm.

From what I understand the NORM is ~55% selection rate for EA's and that last years numbers were way above the norm.

Therefore if Col Wydra stated that they would be lower than last year there still is a chance that they while lower than last year....are possible still higher than what has been the "norm" of years past of 55%.

PIMA....help me out a little here...

While that may be true. In the years of 55% selection detachments didn't self eliminate weaker candidates either, they generally sent everyone that qualified for the minimums. AF has averaged about 2200 EA's per year for quite a while. It's likely that the selection percentages did not go up because the AF has been sending more cadets to field training, but because detachments have been putting less cadets up for the EA board.
 
+1 Non Ducor, I looked back at 2011 numbers and even though the selection percentage was at 57% for that year group, they still gave out 2100+ EA's.
 
+1 Non Ducor, I looked back at 2011 numbers and even though the selection percentage was at 57% for that year group, they still gave out 2100+ EA's.

The way my Cadre explained it was that numbers were progressively getting smaller but so was the cadet pool. Each year there would be less EAs but similarly less Cadets
 
+1 Non Ducor, I looked back at 2011 numbers and even though the selection percentage was at 57% for that year group, they still gave out 2100+ EA's.

That would be right....From what I recall per Pima that norm for EA's is ~2200.

So that must mean that if last year was at 91-92% then the detachments did A WHOLE LOT of cleaning house before packets went out... I don't remember reading that in the posts....

But then again I don't think that I would have known at that time to look for those kind of numbers.

From what I recall from a different thread regarding EA percentages....the consensus was that the number of cadets competing as 200/250's was up considerably from last year.

Det 157...even though they lost a some cadets at the end of 2013...they are still at about 139-140% from last year...which would make since if last year percentages were high at 91-92%....the detachment had 20 less cadets up for EA's......

This year they are at 67 and last year was I believe 47 or 48.... If 47 of 67 get EA's this year then it would make their selection rate at 70%...
 
The way my Cadre explained it was that numbers were progressively getting smaller but so was the cadet pool. Each year there would be less EAs but similarly less Cadets

How many cadets did your detachment have in last years "pool" vs this year? Like I just posted Det 157 is up in numbers not down....up almost 40%.....
 
I pulled these posts from a different thread that included chatter about size of SFT class this year vs last.....and at that time the consensus was that overall the number of cadets up for EA's this year was up significantly from last year.

Below is parts of a few of the posts...If anybody recognizes one of these as their post and knows that the numbers are significantly different now please advise..
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At my det, there was a 100% selection last year (9 out of 9) but a couple cadets ended up being medically DQ'ed and didn't actually get to go to field training. This year there are 18 of us and ours is the biggest class at our det
Exact situation of what my detachment is experiencing. Last year there were roughly 20 cadets still competing for an EA and this year there are 39 cadets.
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My detachment is down to 17 but still up from 12 last year. I am not sure how we have all applied whether tech, non tech or rated but numbers seem to be up this year all around.

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My DS told me they lost 3 200/250 cadets after the fall semester so they are down to 25 now, but that is still almost double from last year
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I'm curious to what these detachment's final numbers were in regarding to how many cadets actually ended up having packets sent....
 
Hey everyone - while I stand by my earlier post I believe I have misspoken / been misunderstood. Col. Wydra did not say FT will be canceled. He very briefly said it was an option on the table if the numbers didn't come out this week (it would be difficult if not impossible to carry out with the first max only 3 weeks away and school finishing up). I believe there will be FT this summer, albeit with reduced numbers, which is what Colonel Wydra indicated he believes as well.

I really am at NATCON and am also confused by the post about someone having dinner with Col. Wydra at the smithsonian - dinner wasn't served there.

The Colonel really did make the statement about the possibility of FT being canceled at his talk during one of our business sessions today. I'm not a troll - I've just been on pin and needles as much as everyone else on this forum and wanted to bring this up since no one else did. Sorry for any confusion, and any implication on my part that canceling FT is a likely or preferable outcome.
 
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My det normally sends 20 to 25 for EAs. This year we are down around 13 left from where we started at upper 30s
 
This thread reminds me of a thread a few years ago "January 4, 2011 AROTC Board"

The results from this board took over 2 months to finally come out. The thread was 197 pages with well over 200,000 views. It was torture for those waiting to find out the results. The speculation went in every direction and I think those involved learned more about the ins and outs of the ROTC Scholarship process then they had hoped for.

In then end most of the speculation was way off base but it was nice that people had a place to bounce off their frustration.

I really hope for all you AF Cadets that this marathon ends soon, well at least this marathon, it will give you all a break until the next one comes up.

Good luck everyone
 
Yes, last year they did clean house quite a bit too, HOWEVER for some reason (whether it be increased recruiting or shear coincidence or our group having a larger amount of people intent on commissioning) our year group is significantly larger than last year's group and we started out that way. This year has seen a severe weeding out process, practically no medical waivers went out this year, anyone who may have had a chance in previous years but are a long shot this year have been "encouraged" to either leave or try again next year, mistakes that were once forgivable are now an automatic out. Idk how it's been at other dets, but here there's been a steady stream of cadets dropping/being disenrolled for one thing or another since packages went up for the boards Feb 22.

Even with all of that, our class's numbers are still up 20-30% (and sometimes 40%) across the board. Why? Big contributing factor may be that the AF just somehow attracted more people for the FY2016 group than they did for last year's group. Not sure how much retention rates have gone up for my group as opposed to last year's group. We started with ~70 new cadets in the fall of 2012, now we have ~27 including 250s that entered this year. In fall of 2011 our det had ~60 new cadets, they had 23 go up for EAs, l18 or 19 got them, now their group is down to the mid teens. So, considering how many cadets each class started with, the retention rate seems to be about the same. It'd be interesting to see the nation wide stats on this.

Another thing to think about is that right now the AF is not just trying to figure out numbers for FY2016, they are also trying to figure out numbers for FY2017. What with many colleges designing their STEM programs to last 4.5-5 years, many of us tech majors who are going up against the boards are set to commission FY2017. So now they have to decide how many of the next year group's commissioning slots will go to us too. Makes me wonder if in the past command has had a set percentage of how many EAs they will allow for 4.5-5 year cadets to commission with the next year group.

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Won't be a surprise at all if stats are lower than last years, only question is how much of a hit are we going to take? Even if the number of given EAs stays the same, there is still a larger class that likely contains more competitive candidates than last year. There is no chance # of EAs will go up, so we're looking at either percentages in the 80s if # of EA slots stay about the same or something in the 60s if we take the 300+ dip many are predicting. With Max 6 being canceled, they can probably fit a couple more cadets in each of the remaining Max's, but Maxwell can only house so many FT cadets at one time in the 2 dorm buildings they have set up for us. Unless they decide to commandeer some OTS dorms....Man, I just want them to come out with it already. Really hoping for tomorrow, but with most NATCON cadets still being on the road then, I'm wondering if they would still go ahead and tell us or wait until everyone gets home to call us up or make appointments for the next day. At this point I'm thinking releasing in a group setting is not appropriate, but at the same time, neither is waiting any longer than necessary to tell us. After this week the little cushion they had left for bag drag, distributing orders, etc. will be gone.
 
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Just to clarify things a little bit. The 45% to 55% was from three years ago. Two years ago was the first year they cut numbers before they announced FT selection and the acceptance rate ended up being around 90% give or take. That was my son's class. I didn't really follow it last year, but from posts in this thread it sounds like they did the same.

Anecdotal evidence from posts here for this year make it sound like there may well be more cadets applying for fewer slots. Which may well bring it back down to the 50% range or lower.
 
Hey everyone, I've been lurking this thread for a while. I saw the post about Col. Wydra's speech at NATCON. Well I actually recorded his speech regarding EAs. I didn't post it because he really didn't say much. After reading about the post of possibly canceling FT, I think it would be beneficial to post the clip. I'll try and figure out how to get the clip from my iphone and upload it here if it helps anyone out for clarification.
 
Hey everyone, I've been lurking this thread for a while. I saw the post about Col. Wydra's speech at NATCON. Well I actually recorded his speech regarding EAs. I didn't post it because he really didn't say much. After reading about the post of possibly canceling FT, I think it would be beneficial to post the clip. I'll try and figure out how to get the clip from my iphone and upload it here if it helps anyone out for clarification.

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