Luigi59
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So is any of this going to have an impact on the class of 2014?
No.
So is any of this going to have an impact on the class of 2014?
The Coast Guard has far more than 200 ensigns each year.
.... I think Capt's points were right on. 500 MOC's, for 265 spots? How's that going to be fair?
....you can't force a kid in Nebraska or Iowa or Utah or anywhere to apply to USCGA. They've got to want it in their heart and soul and have a real interest in the mission on the CG.
How do some MOC's end up with "15" appointments in on year at one SA?
There is horse trading that goes on for sure between MOC's and the lobbying crowd. So it's definitely NOT about diversity, it's about patronage as was stated before. USCGA and Admiral Allen, fight to keep USCGA the way it is!!!
I think Capt's points were right on. 500 MOC's, for 265 spots? How's that going to be fair?
That of course means any member of Congress, particularly a member on the committee which provides the funding for those governmental entities can insert many interesting things into appropriations and authorization bills to force things to happen they care about.
mnolan hits on some very good points, I hope everyone picked up on them.
I'm still trying to figure out how a "USMMA" system of nominations, allocating appointments proportionally based on US Census (19 appointments for California, 10 for Florida, 5 for Maryland, 1 for North Dakota, 2 for Idaho, etc) is going to increase the qualified applicant pool and increase the diversity Congressman Cummings seeks.
That said I agree with you, this seems like something that will likely happen. One possible good thing that might come out of it is it gives USCGA Alums who will no doubt become part of more MOC's Nomination Review Boards to interact with those members and point out funding needs, etc. as long of course they are not on active duty...
And that's how things get broken!
Like ethanol credits in a health care bill. Rep. Cummings is forcing the issue although not all Congressmen are on board, even in his own party.
There is no benefit, not in diversity, not in moral character. You will limit the number of coastal applicants because of nominations. That doesn't mean you will have MORE applicants from inland. It doesn't mean you will have better applicants from inland states. In effect, you will "thin" the quality of the application process, and applicants will no longer compete fully on their own merits, but under a quota system.
While king crab fishing off the coast of Alaska, you're forced to abandon ship and you find yourself adrift in a lifeboat in freezing temperatures, 40 knot winds, and 12' waves. A CG rescue force is enroute. Do you want a team led by the best qualified officers to save your life, or are you more interested in the team's diversity?
How do you get the *best qualified*?Do you want a team led by the best qualified officers to save your life, or are you more interested in the team's diversity?
How do you get the *best qualified*?
Can they only come from white middle class or can they come from inner city Baltimore - where kids are working hard and encouraged to take science and math do better than their parents did?