November NROTC board results known?

Le.hutton, besides the 167 PFT, your stats are good.

Now that I know your PFT score is a 267, I see why you got the scholarship. Congrats and good luck at Villanova.
 
Okay time to read this, walk away, and think. Come back and re-read again. Hopefully, by that point you will be able to remove every emotion.

Trust me, I understand. I have been down this path with our DS, like many other parents, so we get the "roller coaster ride aka Pit in The Stomach".

From my understanding, the NROTC app asks if you have applied to any of the academies, so what lucky marcy stated is certainly a possibility.

Time out...You should know if the NROTC app asked that. Luckymacy should not be informing you of this.

No offense, but it was only a few short months ago.

Secondly, if you have forgotten, and you are applying to the USNA, TALK TO YOUR BGO to see if that is the case.

However, if I get accepted to Duke with a NROTC scholarship, I would have a tough time deciding between the two.

I get that 1000% our DS opted ROTC over AFA. We had a very, very long conversation about why he would take one over the other.

In the end, the question that we posed was if MONEY wasn't a question and he had the same chance for his MILITARY goals, which would he take? He opted ROTC, feel free to pm me for the exact reasons.

Contact the Duke Detachment and ask for a one on one. ASK THEM POINT BLANK:

~If in Sept., I regret my decision will you support me for an NROTC nom?

~ What are my statistical chances for my career goal...BUD/S, UPT, Intel, etc.?

~Call ahead and make an apptmt. Ask them to allow you to talk one on one with their cadets. Get a feel for the det.

We took our DS to his college, he sat down with the Commander, he than hung with the cadets one on one. Det commanders are AD military members, their true goal is to guarantee that their branch has the best officers. People think they have an us (ROTC) against them (SA), but they don't. Their US is the service.

It just doesn't seem fair that someone could get rejected for being "over" qualified (though I'm troubled in believing that this might be the case), but alas, life isn't meant to be fair...

The NROTC system is tied to the university. Again, I am going from an AF POV.

You would not be rejected from being over qualified, you would be rejected that you are not the highest NROTC candidate for the universities on your list.

You need to absorb and accept this fact:

Some Universities talk to ROTC regarding admissions and some don't.

They can be the factor that pulls you across the finish line. Notre Dame doesn't talk, nor does UVA, and to the best of my knowledge Duke follows suit. UNCCH does talk.

I think you are a low reach for Duke. The reason I state this is because of the 93.9 GPA. Is that weighted? What are your actual AP classes? What is the school profile? 2070 SAT is low.

I think you are going to get a scholarship. I am not a betting woman!

Would it hurt to email the NROTC office and see if my file has been put up for review, and ask if there is any specific reason I haven't received a scholarship yet?

You are also applying for USNA, correct? Contact your BGO, don't jump up over their head.

They exist to hold your hand and walk you through the process. They know YOU, contact them first.

I've talked to the NROTC coordinator in my area and he is essentially clueless.

I believe it is USNA85 that is on this site who is a BGO. PM them for further direction regarding this situation. Be honest and upfront, DO NOT HIDE THE SKELETONS!

Should I email/call the representatives at Duke/Rochester to see if they know anything?

Can you visit either of these campuses? Rochester and Duke are worlds apart, not only in climate, but in school environment.

There would be nothing worse in this world if you got both of these schools on your list and you never stepped foot on their campus. Let's be honest Duke has K'town where they live in tents. That is campus life for a majority of students.

ROTC is a blend of college and your future military life. You need to find that balance for you.

I know this was long, but I hope that you can now look at it from a more wholistic approach.

Good luck, and thank you for wanting to serve!
 
Pima, thanks for the reply and the insight.

Just to clarify, when I said, "From my understanding, the NROTC app asks if you have applied to any of the academies, so what lucky marcy stated is certainly a possibility." I was just responding to an earlier remark that you had made that AFROTC did not know if you were applying to an academy--I KNOW that the application asks if you have applied to any of the academies, but I was unsure how they used that data--I was merely trying to be polite by saying, "From my understanding," though in retrospect it really muddled my statement.

Secondly, when I stated, "It just doesn't seem fair that someone could get rejected for being "over" qualified (though I'm troubled in believing that this might be the case), but alas, life isn't meant to be fair... " I might have misinterpreted what Lucky Marcy said (and by rejected, I meant rejected from receiving an NROTC scholarship). I understand that receiving an NROTC scholarship does not effect being admitted into the university. However, I interpreted what Lucky Marcy said as saying that the NROTC board does not give scholarships to candidates who are qualified for USNA, since they are assuming that they will take an appointment over a scholarship, which, as evidenced in the case of your daughter, is not always the case.


As far as understanding my chances at getting accepted into Duke itself, I understand that even if I get a scholarship, getting admitted to Duke is still a reach. MY SAT isnt great (though my ACT is better). My GPA is unweighted and I attend a top 50 public school just outside of Rochester, NY. I've taken 10 APs and am currently taking 5 this year. My schedule is all honors classes and no AP "lite" options like Environmental science. So far, the APs I've taken are
European History 5
US History 5
Chemistry 4
Psychology 4
Language and Composition 4

I'm currently taking
Economics
Government and Politics
Literature
Calculus
Biology
and plan on self studying for Physics B.

I appreciate your help in the process. I've visited Rochester several times and have visited Duke once. Though I understand that each school has their differences, I think I'm pretty well researched on the college selection process. Rochester is close to home, which is a plus and a minus. Duke is slightly bigger in terms of overall student body (4500 undergraduates vs 6500, 9000 including graduates vs 13000), but I also really liked its campus feel, especially the passion that the students had for their school (reminded me of USNA, almost). I woudn't be able to run for Duke, and at Rochester I'm being recruited on their team, so that is a noticeable difference. Nevertheless, I like both school's academic and social atmospheres, though perhaps for different reasons. However, I've only talked to the Duke NROTC representative via email. I will be sure to ask him these questions.


In terms of talking with my BGO, I'm not sure how the process is with AFA and AFROTC, but my BGO is not affiliated whatsoever with NROTC, just the academy. In terms of NROTC, like I said, I talked to the NROTC coordinator who I had my interview with, and he didn't know very much about the process. If I am still confused after this discussion (I'll have to let it sink in, I guess) then I will be sure to PM USNA1985. I can try contacting my BGO for NROTC assistance, though he has been very isolated from the entire process, I met with him to have my USNA interview and that was it. He was in his 70s, and from what I gleamed in the interview, knew very little about NROTC.


Thanks for the help and support, I really appreciate it. Sorry for the long message too!
 
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Mom talking here. So take it with a grain of salt. So many kids think they want to go further away, but the problem is sometimes they go too far away for their own good.

Trust me, as parents we don't drop by unexpectedly, or expect you to come home on weekends.The only expectation we have for you kids is that when you do come home, it will be with every piece of dirty laundry that you own.:rolleyes:

Duke is far, it is not far, it is flipping far. I would guesstimate a 12 hr car ride. Come Columbus Day when everyone is clearing out of the dorms for the long weekend, you may be hanging back because traveling home is not an option. It can quickly become very lonely.

Our DD decided she wanted to go 4 hrs away, we supported it, but within 6 weeks of being there she just wanted to come home for a weekend. She loves her school to the ends of the earth, but sometimes you do miss the family. You need to address that issue. Look at the amt of snow we just had on the east coast. Raleigh was socked in, what if that happened 2 weeks ago when you were suppose to fly home for winter break? What if Rochester gets socked in for Spring Break in March.

I am not trying to say don't go to Duke, I am just trying to make you see the logistics in this decision. Duke is a gorgeous campus. It is a great school, but you need to want with every fiber in your body to pull up your roots to go there.

Duke does not care if you are IS or OOS. Duke is private, thus, they can be more flexible in their residency acceptance rate. Public schools are state funded, thus, they usually have a % of IS that is much higher than OOS. For VA the % is 75% IS, 25% OOS. Same with UMDCP, so coming from OOS can hurt. It can also help, because for OOS they want diversity, if you are coming from an area that is not "hot" for them your chances increase.

Out of curiosity how did your NROTC coordinator not understand the process, and yet be a coordinator?

I would try some back channels, such as making an apptmt with Rochester's det command. I am sure they can give you more answers if the NROTC coordinator is not knowledgeable. Ask broad questions that can apply to both Duke and Rochester. It will at least show to the command that you are very serious about taking this route. They also may remember you come Sept. That is a maybe because if the size of the det is large, obviously they aren't going to remember you unless you have a very cool last name that sticks in their memory.
 
Pima--As far as my NROTC coordinator goes,he understands the NROTC application well, but when I asked him about receiving the scholarship, he knew about as much as I did. His response was "I know as much as you do when it comes to when you'll find out." I can completely understand this, considering a lot of this information isn't even given to him. I think his official position is something like "Recruitment coordinator" and he focuses a lot on NUPOC and enlistment, with NROTC being more secondary

I've been in some contact with him as far as the academy vs. NROTC decision goes, but he went through OCS, so he doesn't have any first hand knowledge. I haven't talked to anyone at Rochester NROTC, though I should. I'll plan a meeting to talk to him/ her sometime in the next few weeks and contact him/her via email. The Duke det. command is a USNA grad, so he really knows both sides of the experience. I emailed him yesterday (I've been in more contact with him) and we should be talking over the phone about the process.

As far as being away from home goes, I definitely understand that this is a big decision (If I even get admitted to Duke) but I figure if I went to the academy, it would be slightly less far, but the whole "homesick" thing would be 10X worse. Its just something I'll have to consider if I get admitted.

Thanks for your help, again!
 
I would contact Rochester ASAP and set up an apptmt with the command. ROTC commands experience everything imaginable. They also know the gpa of their cadets. You will be able to quickly gauge if you meet their NROTC scholarship requirements just by their attitude towards you. Don't do it via phone or email. Do it in person. If you have to skip school for the day to meet them, explain it to your teachers, they will understand.

Trust me, you will feel so much better regardless of how it falls out because now you will have facts from an NROTC source than hypotheticals from a forum.

Make sure prior to meeting them that you can answer one question. What is your Navy career goal? If you have that answer already, politely ask if you can meet with midshipmen who have the same goal just to talk.

Our DS's school did that and while he talked with cadets, Bullet hung back and spoke further with the command.

It disheartens me to read an AD member who is in charge of this to say to you, "you know as much as I do". Honestly, you do need to contact USNA85 just to give her the back story, she is a BGO, and can try to bring this to the Navy's attention. The Navy wants qualified applicants like you and the fastest way to lose them is through frustration.

You are fortunate to have found this site, and as frustrated as you may feel, remember there are 1000's that do not have this support system to give them advice and direction.

Good luck, thank you for wanting to protect this great nation!
 
dpt620 said:
if I went to the academy, it would be slightly less far, but the whole "homesick" thing would be 10X worse.
I'm not sure at the Academy you will ever have the time to even realize you're homesick :shake:
 
An amazing thing happene to my DS (who applied to the NROTC, USNA, and the USMMA) this week. He received a phone call on Monday (12/27) from a Chief at the Great Lakes Naval Center who stated my son had been selected as a highly qualified candidate and they were prepared to make an offer for an immediate decision NROTC scholarship, but he had to have an interview with the Base Commander before 12/3010 and be willing to make an honorable verbal commitment to follow through on the acceptance (not changing his mind). The only exception to this would be if he received an appointment to an academy.

We went to the base yesterday and DS was prepped by the Chief and then my husband and I were invited to sit in on the interview with the Commander, but if we said anything without being asked a question, the interview would be over. The interview was 1 hour and fairly brutal. At the end the Commander stood up and offered our son a scholarship for $180,000. We have pictures with the "big check", that they said they would come to his graduation and offer there. I am sitting in awe at this whole thing that has happened over the past couple days and know this was a gift from God.

The amazing part is that DS applied as a Tier 3 with pre-law and political science as his majors. His stats are 3.9 GPA, ACT 28, SAT 1300, football (captain), drama, band section leader, tons of church group leadership, many, many hours of volunteer/community service, foreign mission trips of service. When I read many of these posts and see the qualifications that many of these yound men and women have, on paper they appear so much more qualified than DS. He has received 3 congressional nominations to the USMMA and 1 to the USNA

We received feedback from a couple people that DS has phenomonal interviews and his letters of recommendation were also stellar. After sitting in on the interview yesterday, (this was one on one with the commander) I agree that this is really his strength, his honesty and honest self-assessment of what he wants to do, his ability to lead and where he wants to grow put me in awe...I thought I really knew him, but under this pressure he was one cool dude and it was truly meaningful. The Commander didn't give him any breaks and everything was open for challenge. Needless to say, it was an amazing event.

So as the Chief stressed now all the stars have to line up, he has the scholarship, needs to get accepted into the schools (so far 3 out of 5), and they have to have NROTC openings (so far 3 out of 5). The Commander also stated the that the privilege of getting this offer has the expectation that our son will commit and follow through on it, and only if he gets an appointment will there be understanding that he could not fulfill the offer of this scholarship. So DS signed the papers and gave his word of this agreement. So we are truly on an adventure. I understand this is a unique way of receiving the scholarship and thought it might give hope to some of you who have worked so hard on all the applications and processes. Blessings to you.
 
Congratulations to you!

I am so glad for you and your son! It is amazing to sit back and "listen" to our candidates take on these questions and challenges, or watch them come out of one of these tough interviews to state "I feel so good about this, WOW!"

It is easy to say we must have done something right in raising our children, and I agree a little with that statement. But some of us just have these amazing leaders and this is where they are meant to be. I have watched my child be chosen for leadership positions repeatedly over the last few years. Sometimes my child was selected for these positions, others times voted into these positions.

It is about them, they were meant to do this. There are some that are just natural born leaders and they even under severe pressure they handle it with ease. They make good decisions. They are respected by their peers.

And we are just so very blessed to be on the ride with them. We are about to send them off and they will do well.
We are so blessed.
Congratulations! Celebrate!
 
When was the last time someone got an NROTC scholarship?

Maybe we can be expecting some results soon-ish?
 
I think some heard about a week ago. Next round will be in a couple of weeks unless they skipped a board with the holidays.
 
hadn't checked NROTC portal in a while, just did and...

nothing changed...:rolleyes:

It's said the same thing for a LONG time now, months I'm guessing:

The NSTC Selection/Placement Office has received your application.

Missing Items
All required items have been processed.

Selection Status
No decision has been made on your application.

Anyone talked to a regional coordinator lately? I'm really curious what they are telling kids who are still filling out their applications? Are they telling them the boards are still meeting and there's still lots of slots left??? When is the cut off date for new apps?
 
My son's page says the same thing. Our Regional coordinator said there will be two boards meeting each month in January, February and March.
 
nothing changed...:rolleyes:

It's said the same thing for a LONG time now, months I'm guessing:

The NSTC Selection/Placement Office has received your application.

Missing Items
All required items have been processed.

Selection Status
No decision has been made on your application.

Anyone talked to a regional coordinator lately? I'm really curious what they are telling kids who are still filling out their applications? Are they telling them the boards are still meeting and there's still lots of slots left??? When is the cut off date for new apps?

For you did it ever say...

"Application has been submitted online Your electronic application has been received and is being processed ...
Your application is at Naval Education and Training Command for final processing and selection determination. Selection decisions will begin in late August and continue until the end of April. Once a selection decision has been made, your new status will be reflected."...?:rolleyes:
 
I don't remember, too long ago. It did show something else first but I think it changed status to the current status pretty quickly.
 
I don't remember, too long ago. It did show something else first but I think it changed status to the current status pretty quickly.

Okay I was just wondering because mine has been like that since about the middle of December. Which I guess makes some sense now that I think about it.
 
OK! NROTC came through in a big way this morning!

Here's what it looks like now on the portal:

Missing Items

All required items have been processed.


Selection Status

Congratulations!
You have been selected for a 4-yr Navy Option scholarship.
You are assigned to the NROTC Unit at Pennsylvania State University.


You will be notified in writing of your selection status approximately two weeks after the information is posted on this web site. The letter includes a questionnaire which must be returned immediately. The award of the scholarship is contingent upon meeting all the requirements listed in the notification letter, including being found medically qualified or waived for the NROTC Program.

Best of luck to those still waiting.
 
P-17, would you mind letting IT know that for the past 3 weeks, I, and apparently others who have posted here, are no longer able to access the Status URL, but were able to up until 3 weeks ago? First identified here: http://www.serviceacademyforums.com/showthread.php?t=16407

I'll go find a Mac as I was successful accessing the URL two weeks ago from a MAC.
 
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