Anyone hear about something down at USNA?

Seven. All she sees is Article 15's, Courts Marshals and investigations. That is not what she signed up for to work all week and then called in Saturday and Sunday when some idiot does something stupid. She still loves the Marines but I think they are burning out junior officers.
 
Seven. All she sees is Article 15's, Courts Marshals and investigations. That is not what she signed up for to work all week and then called in Saturday and Sunday when some idiot does something stupid. She still loves the Marines but I think they are burning out junior officers.
I have news for you/her...at 16 years as a commander...that's what life is like too. The 0200 call: "Sir....this is MSgt XXX...we have an incident..." Or the one from the "boss" that says: "Steve...I need you in here immediately, so-and-so from your squadron..."

It may not be what we signed up for (I signed up to fly combat jets) but as an individual progresses...additional duties do tend to pile on.

Steve
USAFA ALO
USAFA '83
 
@AF6872: As a Company Commander and Adjutant I hope your DD also finds herself handling promotions, citations, awards and some of the other motivating aspects of dealing with her Marines. She needs to find a way to balance her viewpoint with the good and the bad and in the end, if she still finds herself ready to get out than I suppose it is in her Marines' best interest to start that process.

No disrespect intended. We all leave active duty for some reason or another. Wishing her the best. Semper Fi!
 
She has many citations, schools and awards and has presented many to her Marines. They offered her many offers to stay and she has never had a problem with her Marines under her command. They and her Commanders want her to stay. They called her in for three hours to talk her out of it. When you fill three slots because two other officers are deployed and you are on call seven days a week for three jobs and your husband is deployed it can get a bit much. For HER Marines it would be best for her to stay but it might be best for HER to Dive.
 
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AF6872: I understand completely. I was attempting to offer a balanced view on a situation where I didn't have all the details. Frankly, I left active duty for family reasons also. Being a Marine Officer becomes awful tough with family commitments. Wishing her every success.
 
I guess I was lucky as an Army CO. Only two courts martial (barracks thieves). Yes, a number of Article 15s, but the vast majority were summarized. Like the female E-3 who had a compound bow in her room, set up some deer targets in the barracks courtyard and was using the stairwell as a makeshift deer stand for target practice. She was... “country”. “Well sir and 1sgt, y’all got to see it like I done seen it. Ain’t no regulation ‘gainst keeping my bow in da barracks. And I wasn’t rightly huntin’ so can’t see as I busted that reg...Sir.” It was very tough for me and top to keep a straight face on that one. I felt like I was in a scene from “No Time for Sergeants”. Most of the soldiers were Good Joe’s.
 
@AF6872 Been there, done that, as a JO and dual military spouse - best training I ever had for later XO/CO billets, and major staff/Pentagon duty. But also exhausting and definitely un-fun at times.

This is why I asked JOs, and now ask our sponsor alumni, as they debate staying or going (as they should at that career stage), “Do you have the burning in your gut for command? If you do, stay, and do the slog through this kind of work, and ensure your spouse is fully onboard. If you don’t, there is absolutely nothing wrong with serving honorably and separating to pursue a civilian career and a different balance to your life priorities.”

It does not get any easier. A standard Pentagon joke is “a half-day is only 12 hours.”

No doubt JOs in Alexander the Great’s army dealt with the same things. Military life, the onerous, ridiculous, QOL-and-soul-grinding parts of it, have been the subject of military humor for as long as folks in uniform have put up with them.

The system is designed to shed people along the way. If it didn’t, promotions would bog down.

Your DD is in an ideal position to take advantage of the SACC, Military MoJo, Corporate Gray and all the veteran career transition groups out there.

I do hope she has done the research on her GI Bill benefits and will stay long enough to get 100% of the benefit. That is well worth it. If she decides to go to a full-time Master’s program, she should look for DOD-designated Yellow Ribbon schools who offer in-state tuition and scholarships to help make up any gaps in what she needs. Almost all universities have a dedicated Military/Veterans Affairs group that helps with applying benefits and other support, plus a chapter of Student Veterans of America.

A personal favorite recommendation of mine:
https://ivmf.syracuse.edu/

If she is interested in Federal service, which is nicely portable for military spouses and for which she gets veterans’ preference, most military bases offer Fed resume boot camps.

She will be a valuable commodity in the job market. If she leaves while she still, in her heart, loves her Service, she will continue to be an advocate for it and her SA and a good influence on those she might meet. Could be a BGO one day!
 
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I guess I was lucky as an Army CO. Only two courts martial (barracks thieves). Yes, a number of Article 15s, but the vast majority were summarized. Like the female E-3 who had a compound bow in her room, set up some deer targets in the barracks courtyard and was using the stairwell as a makeshift deer stand for target practice. She was... “country”. “Well sir and 1sgt, y’all got to see it like I done seen it. Ain’t no regulation ‘gainst keeping my bow in da barracks. And I wasn’t rightly huntin’ so can’t see as I busted that reg...Sir.” It was very tough for me and top to keep a straight face on that one. I felt like I was in a scene from “No Time for Sergeants”. Most of the soldiers were Good Joe’s.

We absolutely need to start a thread elsewhere about “things my people have done.”
I howled when I saw this. Immediately thought about memorable Sailors and things they did.
 
We absolutely need to start a thread elsewhere about “things my people have done.”
I howled when I saw this. Immediately thought about memorable Sailors and things they did.
My 1Sgt was what you imagine as a typical 1Sgt. Tough as nails.
I swear to this day I saw tears in his eyes as he tried to keep a straight face during the proceedings. He ordered her to double time out of there after she agreed to a suspended sentence of extra duty, and I think it was more to get her out of ear shot before he broke down laughing.
 
My favorite was going to the base jail to figure out what to do with a sailors Filipino girlfriend who came on base when he was on duty and took a key to the exterior and high heels to the interior of his brand new truck....

It is what it is with admin work. I wrote FITREP’s, Evals and award citations right up until the day I retired. I still get requests from many of my former junior officers for selection board letters and job recommendations. I did draw the line when someone on the staff asked me to write my own retirement award. I said if they couldn’t figure out what to put down after 30 years, I didn’t want one...never did show up in the mail...
 
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She wants to go Law School and her Commanders have said they will write recommendations for best Marine Officer they ever had.


Navy ( and I suspect USMC is similar) has (maybe had ) a great program for sending Junior Officers to Law School. Very competitive, but they send you to law school , with full pay and allowances. I applied years ago, but was an alternate , so I got out and went on my own.

I'm a bit biased, but think that Junior Military Officers make great lawyers (and have hired others for my firm). Alot of young lawyers are coming straight from college to law school, and lack the real world experience and the people skills that young officers have.
 
We absolutely need to start a thread elsewhere about “things my people have done.”

That would be classic, and give good insight into things JO'as have to deal with. I was the Legal Officer in my squadron, so I got to participate in a lot of Captains Masts. I was pretty junior at the time, and learned a lot from watching how my Skipper would get together with the chain of command before the Mast, get input and essentially make group decision on the appropriate outcome before calling the guest of honor in. I still remember internally cringing every time the Mastee opened his/her (mostly his back then) mouth, knowing that the Skipper and Chain of Command had already made a decision, and often the only thing that opening their mouth would accomplish is make things worse.
 
She is definitely thinking about Yale. She could live at our house and save some money. I could charge rent. She visited Yale During senior high school year but still told me after we left that it is a great school ( and great Pizza close by) but USNA was what she wanted.
 
She is definitely thinking about Yale. She could live at our house and save some money. I could charge rent. She visited Yale During senior high school year but still told me after we left that it is a great school ( and great Pizza close by) but USNA was what she wanted.

GI Bill users get a monthly housing allowance equivalent to E5 with dependents rate, plus adjustments by zip code.
https://www.benefits.va.gov/GIBILL/...ources/rates/ch33/ch33rates080117.asp#HOUSING

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She has been looking into that on the Bill. The worst one she ever had was a SGT discharged for an infraction and his First SGT cried at the hearing.
 
Do I still get the housing allowance or is it discounted for relatives? Looked it up and mine was $300 a month. Then as an enlistee from the State in the State College program we only paid $50 a semester tuition. What a deal. I got that nickel back (look it up, one nickel at a time) but it took a while.
 
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