Pima
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I maybe wrong, but I was under the impression the reason you change from applicant to candidate is because of your nom, and that you do not go to the board until you have a nom, (at least for the AFA) since you can't be apptd without one.
LOA's are totally different, I was under the understanding that this comes from the pcq, and you are ranked at the top of the top. LOA's are not common, only about 1-2% will get them. Or in other words 150 candidates out of the original 10K pcqs with an open file. Have an LOA and no nom = no appointment, it states it very clearly on the LOA.
ALOS, MALOS, BGOs please clarify!
I have never heard of a cadet meeting a board without a nom. Not even LOAS. I can be wrong. It would seem like double work for the board to give a WCS to somebody without a nom, and a req for an appt is a nom. The people that sit on the board have these meetings as additional duties, that is not their full time job. Just like ALOS/MALOS/BGOS, that is not their full time job, which would be equivalent to every person placing a pcq meeting with them. Totally than people the candidates have whittled down to the top 1/3 as applicants. Again my numbers may be off, but I believe the whittling goes from 9-10K that open a file, to 6K that complete it (which would be when mom 2011 states you go up to the board for your WCS), to 3500 that are deemed qualified to 2K+ with noms(where I thought they go up for the WCS), to 1600 appointments, which is why their acceptance rate is at the 17% makrker.
Also what I mean by boards, that is where your WCS is assigned to your file, which could be wht 2011 and I are conflicting. The AFA board that assigns the WCS and appts will not meet until Oct. They are giving out LOA's, many of them are athletic recruits, but the stipulation is you need a no, to be appt. and you will not be apptd prior to having a nom. Get a presidential and have an LOA, you will be the 1st appt.
AGAIN I could be totally wrong. I would love for clarification from people like fliegler so that the incoming candidates have a true understanding of the process, and not just personal experience/opinion.
ANd yes 2011 that was one of the points I was stressing!
That’s not quite accurate … your file will be reviewed as soon as it is complete (each SA begins reviews at different times, USMA is already reviewing files- I've heard of summer LOAs from USMA in the past, USAFA boards meet for the first time in early October and USNA typically in September). You do NOT need a nomination for your file to be reviewed by the board of any SA. You DO need a nomination to obtain an appointment. To bridge this gap, the SAs use the LOA process, typically stating that if a candidate obtains a nomination (or passes whatever is not done) they are assured an appointment.
LOA's are totally different, I was under the understanding that this comes from the pcq, and you are ranked at the top of the top. LOA's are not common, only about 1-2% will get them. Or in other words 150 candidates out of the original 10K pcqs with an open file. Have an LOA and no nom = no appointment, it states it very clearly on the LOA.
ALOS, MALOS, BGOs please clarify!
I have never heard of a cadet meeting a board without a nom. Not even LOAS. I can be wrong. It would seem like double work for the board to give a WCS to somebody without a nom, and a req for an appt is a nom. The people that sit on the board have these meetings as additional duties, that is not their full time job. Just like ALOS/MALOS/BGOS, that is not their full time job, which would be equivalent to every person placing a pcq meeting with them. Totally than people the candidates have whittled down to the top 1/3 as applicants. Again my numbers may be off, but I believe the whittling goes from 9-10K that open a file, to 6K that complete it (which would be when mom 2011 states you go up to the board for your WCS), to 3500 that are deemed qualified to 2K+ with noms(where I thought they go up for the WCS), to 1600 appointments, which is why their acceptance rate is at the 17% makrker.
Also what I mean by boards, that is where your WCS is assigned to your file, which could be wht 2011 and I are conflicting. The AFA board that assigns the WCS and appts will not meet until Oct. They are giving out LOA's, many of them are athletic recruits, but the stipulation is you need a no, to be appt. and you will not be apptd prior to having a nom. Get a presidential and have an LOA, you will be the 1st appt.
AGAIN I could be totally wrong. I would love for clarification from people like fliegler so that the incoming candidates have a true understanding of the process, and not just personal experience/opinion.
ANd yes 2011 that was one of the points I was stressing!
If you have a Presidential nom you may get an early appointment, but you also might still have to wait a long time ....
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