Awarded AFROTC HSSP Scholarships Statistics?

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mtnwing said:
he wants to go to Notre Dame. Let's leave it there and let's improve the process at the AF for scholarships. Can we talk about the elephant. No we can't
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tgtl said:
Your son got a full ride to Rutgers, a highly regarded school, but that’s not good enough for you/him? That’s what you consider “sad”?
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not good when private messages are shared. why did people do that?
 
Jdjuli said:
Great he wants to go to Notre Dame. What scholarships he can still apply for? Can y'all pay for the first year and hope to get a 3 year AFROTC scholarship in college? Also, every high school senior has a first choice, and unfortunately not every senior finds themselves at that school in the fall of next year. It is the unfortunate truth that you now know. For now talk to the financial aid office at Notre Dame, have him not you reach out to the AFROTC squadron at ND and explain the situation, have your son apply for some more scholarships, have a serious discussion about finances, and see if there is some way you might be able to make this happen for your son. I can tell you one way not to help your son: complaining about the HSSP scholarship process!
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thank you. great advice, we are on the wrong end of trying ot find scholarships as they have already mostly been decided. The military delay put us in a bad situation where the scholarships are gone and we have an offer with no money. we are trying to find a path and I hope your advice gives us a path.
 
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mtnwing said:
thank you. great advice
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No problem. I recommend showing your son this thread. There is a plethora of great advice and ideas for the future that he might want to know about. Also, a great lesson for the future: do not put all your eggs in one basket (HSSP AFROTC Scholarship); instead make sure to have multiple contingency plans especially for things with such low odds.
 
franknd said:
I tried to PM you this, but it wouldn't let me. Anyway, here are my thoughts in response to your message:

Are you NJ residents? I assume he did not receive a Type 7 either? Either way, first, there is absolutely nothing at all wrong with a full-ride from Rutgers. I suspect you don't appreciate the value of that regardless of anything else. That is plenty to work with going forward and does not include, if he doesn't want it to, the added requirement of military service. If he does, though, so much the better. The point is he doesn't NEED an AFROTC scholarship with a full-ride to Rutgers.

Second, I happen to be a (two-time) Notre Dame grad (3-year AROTC winner from way, way back). I take it your son was accepted to ND? If he was, I would encourage him to get in touch with someone at ND's AFROTC unit to basically make his case that he desperately wants ND but can't afford it without the ROTC scholarship. There's no telling what they might be able to do. Maybe nothing, but I wouldn't go down without going the extra mile with ND. The ROTC units there all have an excellent working relationship within the university. Perhaps with the right word from AFROTC, the university might be able to give your son some extra help for freshman year with the idea that he'd be a virtual shoo-in for an on-campus scholarship once he gets there. I'd make them tell me no before he gives up on that.
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he is accepted and we need help. go flying irish tsnedeker at gmail com
 
I am a ND grad nd so is my wife and we have a son at Yale IN AF. My brother flew for 20 years out of McGuire. We want our son in the AF.
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This post really concerns me...

The military is a huge commitment and sacrifice, one that many have given their life during. One of the things that I was asked during my AFROTC interview was whether I wanted this or if my parents were pushing me down this path. When my interviewer brought this up he explicitly said that he would not inform my parents of my response and would be positive about my interview. I do not know what your son said, but it seems to me that YOU want your son to be in the Air Force whether or not he wants the same. If your son said that this is not the path he wants in life then that might be the reason he did not receive a scholarship.I implore you that if this is true to not hold this against your son.
 
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@mtnwing you posted your phone number publicly on this forum. I would advise against this since anyone can now see this private info and call you.
 
Jdjuli said:
This post really concerns me...

The military is a huge commitment and sacrifice, one that many have given their life during. One of the things that I was asked during my AFROTC interview was whether I wanted this or if my parents were pushing me down this path. I do not know what your son said, but it seems to me that YOU want your son to be in the Air Force whether or not he wants the same. If your son said that this is not the path he wants in life then that might be the reason he did not receive a scholarship. I implore you that if this is true to not hold this against your son.
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I have a family of military folks. His brother is a top performer a Yale ROTC. My brother did 20 years. You all have a reason to question it. I told everyone the interviewer recommended a scholarship. Do you want to talk to him? If not you should stop talking. He will get on a call from anyone from the AF and state his intentions.
 
mtnwing said:
tsnedeker at gmail. I am not perfect. I am sorry for that.
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@mtnwing please know that you have posted at least 2 messages to a public page when you thought it was a private message. I tried to PM you but it won’t go through
 
Thank you to all that have shared great advice. I am a very angry parent that needs to move on. But I appreciate everyone that has shared their honest opinions. I have spent 18 years doing everything every single day to prepare him for better and some how I failed. But I hope some other parent learns something from this thread.
 
@mtnwing A candidate with your son's stated stats should not 'be scrambling' one month from HS graduation for a way to pay for college. I agree with the previous poster who mentioned that he should have numerous scholarships rolling in from numerous sources. Were other scholarship opportunities simply not applied for? If so, that was incredibly short sighted. You sound like you would be embarrassed to tell people that your son goes to Rutgers. I understand that you are used to telling people that one of your sons goes to Yale. Hon, you need to do some serious self-examination. I hope that you are only sharing these feelings on SAF and not with your current senior.
 
sparty77 said:
Did you ever consider that this might be a problem? I can't imagine a parent going up to someone effectively interviewing their kid for a 4 year job and speaking to them afterwards to ask how it went. Also, recommended for a scholarship just means the interviewer doesn't think your son shouldn't get one. It doesn't mean he nailed the interview or anything.
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Yes to this!!! Bizarre parent behavior.
 
A few thoughts for the OP. Don’t mean to pile on. This thread has been an interesting read. First, congratulations on your son’s full ride to Rutgers. As a parent, you should be telling him how amazing this is, not that he is Walmart bound. That’s a terrible thing to say on so many levels. Sorry, but that is a really silly thing to say. Second, why in the world would you as the dad ask the interviewer how the interview went. That is a level of helicopter parenting that would red flag a candidate in any sort of interview. Yeah... never do that ever again. Bad idea. Third, and this is the really “tough love” unsolicited advice. This actually isn’t my advice but something that was shared with me a while back. If you look around the world and all you see are a holes, you may be the a hole. Please don’t take this as name calling by me. Instead, it is a perspective to consider. I think about it for myself and have shared also with my kids as they’ve gone off into the world.

Good luck to your kid.
 
mtnwing said:
he wants to go to Notre Dame. Let's leave it there and let's improve the process at the AF for scholarships. Can we talk about the elephant. No we can't. Also really annoying that you suggest his interview was bad when the interviewer confirmed he was recommended. This was a board decision that went wrong.
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Yes.....of course. The Air Force process is broken. Over 10,000 applicants. Fewer slots to fill. Diverse roles/requirements/considerations to weigh...which results in ultimate decisions deemed "in the best interests of USAF."

Your single kid doesn't get picked up.

Therefore, the whole system is broken. It couldn't be anything else. Not possible that the Service Branch knew exactly what they were after. Not possible that they selected those who offered precisely what they wanted.

The mere fact you INSIST that you know the ROTC procedures better than the ROTC Program, itself, speaks volumes.

I certainly hope you're not at home, spewing this entitled and elitist venom in front of your child. Not only can/will/has it planted seeds of perceived superiority in his head...but you're also hell-bent on having him believe that his successes (including a full ride to a great school) are meaningless.

Do yourself...and him...a favor. Stop making it look like he has failed in achieving what appears to be YOUR measure of success.

And with that.....I'm done. I don't want to read anything more about a parent who claims to know more/better than any number of professionals and experienced people involved with the ROTC process, purely because they don't like the answers they've already been handed.

Good luck to your son.
 
You don't walk in my shoes. Thanks to the folks here that were respectful of my pain. Good bye to the rest of you. And yes that is exactly what you were doing. Piling on. That's why you start the paragraph that way. It's saying ... I am going to do this now.
 
mtnwing said:
but have anyone call. I am not hiding and everything I said was true. Thanks for your message
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You know what’s best, but publishing your phone number makes it easy to identify you and then your son and this post doesn’t reflect favorably on either of you.
 
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