Awarded AFROTC HSSP Scholarships Statistics?

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I didn't publish my phone number. I private messaged it. If the site is broken please have it removed.

Profile posts to other users are visible to everyone. Private messages are not. You cannot private message yet because you haven’t been on the forums long enough. The site is not broken.

I did edit your phone number out of that post for your own protection.

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Yes to this!!! Bizarre parent behavior.
No, bizarre parent behavior is posting your name on an anonymous chat board asking people to Google you, and posting your phone number as well asking strangers to call you "if they can help" in any way. (Can't quote directly from profile posts.) Help what? Go back in time to the AFROTC board and change the outcome? It's a bit unhinged, and that's ok. Spend this weekend being unhinged and angry, then compose yourself and help your son put together a plan for the next year.

Also from a profile post - "We want our son in the AF." Does your son have a burning desire to serve his nation? To lead? I didn't see this anywhere. I'm not saying he doesn't, I'm just mentioning that this has not been a highlight in your posts.

USAFA applications for the C/O 2026 will be opening soon. With his stats, I'm sure he'd have a great shot. Tell him to get busy!
 
thank you. great advice, we are on the wrong end of trying ot find scholarships as they have already mostly been decided. The military delay put us in a bad situation where the scholarships are gone and we have an offer with no money. we are trying to find a path and I hope your advice gives us a path.
So he was not simultaneously applying for other scholarships? Did you all just assume he would the AFROTC one? I don’t think something “went wrong” with the board, they look at many factors beyond just grades and test scores.
 
Also from a profile post - "We want our son in the AF." Does your son have a burning desire to serve his nation? To lead? I didn't see this anywhere. I'm not saying he doesn't, I'm just mentioning that this has not been a highlight in your posts.
Absolutely agree. It's been a lot about what the family wants and what the son is qualified for, but very little about what the son wants. That concerns me. The Air Force isn't looking for brainiacs, it's looking for leaders with a passion for what they do. Also, most of my class ended up earning scholarships after they entered the program, and literally no one cares when or even if you get one by the time you graduate.
 
No, bizarre parent behavior is posting your name on an anonymous chat board asking people to Google you, and posting your phone number as well asking strangers to call you "if they can help" in any way. (Can't quote directly from profile posts.) Help what? Go back in time to the AFROTC board and change the outcome? It's a bit unhinged, and that's ok. Spend this weekend being unhinged and angry, then compose yourself and help your son put together a plan for the next year.

Also from a profile post - "We want our son in the AF." Does your son have a burning desire to serve his nation? To lead? I didn't see this anywhere. I'm not saying he doesn't, I'm just mentioning that this has not been a highlight in your posts.

USAFA applications for the C/O 2026 will be opening soon. With his stats, I'm sure he'd have a great shot. Tell him to get busy!
I thought I was private messaging. I am not perfect like the rest of you. People asked to get in touch with me. I thought I was facilitating that. And no I didn't post my name.
 
Is there any chance your son really doesn't want to be in the AF?
Did he secretly tell the interviewer this?

If not, your son is in a great position. He can attend Rutgers tuition free and join Rutgers AFROTC program commitment free.
 
Absolutely agree. It's been a lot about what the family wants and what the son is qualified for, but very little about what the son wants. That concerns me. The Air Force isn't looking for brainiacs, it's looking for leaders with a passion for what they do. Also, most of my class ended up earning scholarships after they entered the program, and literally no one cares when or even if you get one by the time you graduate.
He is ready to serve and wants to do this. Please stop. You don't get ready physically and everything else if you don't want to do this. He has been training for 2 years for this opportunity. Now you question it. Please stop hating.
 
He is ready to serve and wants to do this. Please stop. You don't get ready physically and everything else if you don't want to do this. He has been training for 2 years for this opportunity. Now you question it. Please stop hating.
If your son continues down the Air Force path, I promise you this wont be the first time they get screwed over by the Air Force. Maybe someone at headquarters missed a decimal point on entering their GPA or something, I don't know. If so, that's tragic, but nothing is going to change no matter what you do. While it might seem like your son is special and they've never seen anyone like him, I guarantee they've got a pile of hundreds just like him who applied. That's the hard truth.

Your son is an adult. It's awesome as a parent you're advocating for him, but it's time for him to put on his big boy pants and figure out his future. If he's as amazing as you say he is, he should have no problem earning a scholarship by the end of his first year. It's obviously frustrating, but this is only the beginning of a very long road. Speaking from personal experience, sometimes it's beneficial for your personal growth to eat some humble pie from time to time.
 
I just checked out the Rutgers AFROTC website. Looks active and well-kept, with smiling cadets. Next info session is coming up in May, great opportunity for your son to interact with people who would welcome him and his proven record of achievement. He is indeed fortunate to not have to worry about ponying up money there.
 
If your son continues down the Air Force path, I promise you this wont be the first time they get screwed over by the Air Force. Maybe someone at headquarters missed a decimal point on entering their GPA or something, I don't know. If so, that's tragic, but nothing is going to change no matter what you do. While it might seem like your son is special and they've never seen anyone like him, I guarantee they've got a pile of hundreds just like him who applied. That's the hard truth.

Your son is an adult. It's awesome as a parent you're advocating for him, but it's time for him to put on his big boy pants and figure out his future. If he's as amazing as you say he is, he should have no problem earning a scholarship by the end of his first year. It's obviously frustrating, but this is only the beginning of a very long road. Speaking from personal experience, sometimes it's beneficial for your personal growth to eat some humble pie from time to time.
Here is what we did wrong. We did a poor job filling out his application. We didn't talk enough about his leadership activities. I am pretty sure that is what made the plane crash. I will have to live with that for the rest of my life that someone that worked super hard for 18 years didn't get what he worked hard for; yes he had leadership and we did a poor job highlighting it; now he has to keep trying and the future is uncertain. Yep it's is my fault. We missed a detail. For other parents you can't do that. We missed a detail.
 
Is there any chance your son really doesn't want to be in the AF?
Did he secretly tell the interviewer this?

If not, your son is in a great position. He can attend Rutgers tuition free and join Rutgers AFROTC program commitment free.
Exactly. I posted this same exact idea a few pages back now.
 
And no I didn't post my name.
Ok, in post #20 you posted what looks like a name and told people to Google it.

After paying $125,000 for my daughter's masters degree from Rutgers,

I am having a hard time sympathizing for your son.
I'm so sorry for your daughter's Walmart Masters. 🤣 I hope she can still be successful in life.

And I also feel badly for @JoeGatto , the actual OP of this thread, in that no one has yet answered his question. Joe, I don't know the answer, but perhaps someone else on here does and can let you know if those stats are typically published.
 
You don't walk in my shoes. Thanks to the folks here that were respectful of my pain. Good bye to the rest of you. And yes that is exactly what you were doing. Piling on. That's why you start the paragraph that way. It's saying ... I am going to do this now.
Each of my three points was advice I’d share candidly with a friend. In that way, it wasn’t intended to pile onto your “pain.” Final point... you obviously wanted everyone here to agree and cry in your beer with you. That’s not how life works. I understand this is all still raw for you. I hope you can personally move on and enthusiastically support all the opportunities in front of your kid. Good luck to both of you.
 
Do you recommend a gap year and reapply. We are pretty much screwed here.
Can you defer and take a gap year so your son doesn't have to reapply again?

Next year, I would recommend also applying for Naval ROTC and Army ROTC. Naval ROTC and Army ROTC also have 3-year scholarships that your son can apply for as a freshman in college. If you and your son are able to figure out just the first year at one of those colleges and apply to not just AF ROTC but also Naval ROTC and Army ROTC, this one hick-up shouldn't be a big deal.

Did any of your son's top schools provide any financial aid or merit scholarships? Ivy Leagues and more elite schools often have the best financial aid packages.
 
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Here is what we did wrong. We did a poor job filling out his application. We didn't talk enough about his leadership activities. I am pretty sure that is what made the plane crash. I will have to live with that for the rest of my life that someone that worked super hard for 18 years didn't get what he worked hard for; yes he had leadership and we did a poor job highlighting it; now he has to keep trying and the future is uncertain. Yep it's is my fault. We missed a detail. For other parents you can't do that. We missed a detail.
This is an overreaction. Your son has great stats that should land him where he would like to be in life. Sacrifices will be made. Lingering on the process rather than exploring future opportunities is how you fail. On paper, what you described may be the reason, however the interview, if he really put out there what he needed to put out there, would've shown that he has strength in leadership, athleticism, and academics where it wasn't on paper. I feel that what is happening here is that you feel an insane amount of emotional pressure from a family history that is surrounded by the military lifestyle and only successful lifestyles...I believe if he wants it bad enough the bad future I'm sure you actually envision, one where your son doesn't continue the cycle, will not come to be. He seems to have a great start, run the great run and finish great but expect some bumps in the road ahead....then again, that comes with everything.
 
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Hi,

I did not receive an AFROTC HSSP scholarship. I was wondering if statistics such as the amount of scholarships awarded, average ACT score of scholarship recipients, etc. would ever be released. Just interested to see if anything changed due to the different circumstances in 2020-21.

Thanks
They will probably release an estimate or chart of this eventually, presumably. Sorry that your post got lost in the now 6 pages worth of other posts.
 
Here is what we did wrong. We did a poor job filling out his application. We didn't talk enough about his leadership activities. I am pretty sure that is what made the plane crash. I will have to live with that for the rest of my life that someone that worked super hard for 18 years didn't get what he worked hard for; yes he had leadership and we did a poor job highlighting it; now he has to keep trying and the future is uncertain. Yep it's is my fault. We missed a detail. For other parents you can't do that. We missed a detail.
So I would suggest getting him enrolled in AFROTC at Rutgers and you and he can work on highlighting all his attributes, including leadership, in his next application. There is more that one way to skin a cat.
 
Ok folks. I don't think beating up on mtnwing is useful in any way at this point. mtnwing has acknowledged that there may have been flaws in how the application was completed and their role in that. Further, I don't think much any of this is being expressed to mtnwing's DS. Really, what parent would do that?

@mtnwing came here to vent and express some anger and frustration, and it's clearly dissipating as the event falls further away in time. I completely understand how mtnwing feels as I went through that stage, silently, when DS did not receive a scholarship. I'm sure his DS will pick himself up, brush off the dust, move on, and earn a commission (if that's still the desired path), just as my DS did,

I'm sure all your input was useful in some way and positive suggestions moving forward would probably be appreciated.
 
Should we apply for a gap year. He is accepted at Notre Dame but we don't have the bills to send him. We are hearing bad news that even existing ROTC might lose their scholarships for junior and senior year due to cuts. Direct statement from my son's detachment. 50% cut is what we heard. My other son is straight A's so we hope he'll be OK but this is very bad news. Sorry if I am the spear of this news.
Are you and your son open to doing Naval ROTC or Army ROTC and becoming an officer in either of those two branches? Both have 3-Year Scholarships that college freshmen can apply for and Notre Dame has both of them. From my understanding, the Air Force is dealing with higher retention with pilots, but that is not an issue I anticipate with the Navy or Army. I would reach out to both of those ROTC Branches at Notre Dame—Army ROTC might have campus-based scholarships that might not be too late to apply for. This is not a guarantee, but if you want me to explain this in more detail, feel free to private message me.
 
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