Remaining NROTC Boards

If son or daughter is MIDN 4/C, then it is CORTRAMID. Our Admiral has stated the desire that all Mids attend NSI. I am old school where an Admiral's desire = "Make it Happen". That being said, there can be flexibility....jist not too much. I edited because auto spell got me!!
 
Here we go. See attached. Chapter 3 is germane. Just so folks know, I am off to a Virginia High School to answer NROTC questions from a large group of moms and dads. In case I am never seen again, you will know my answers weren't good enough.
 

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GWU PNS said:
Here we go. See attached. Chapter 3 is germane. Just so folks know, I am off to a Virginia High School to answer NROTC questions from a large group of moms and dads. In case I am never seen again, you will know my answers weren't good enough.
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Wear your coolest shades. Even indoors, in keeping with the Too Gun thread that is fizzing along right now.
 
SVfather said:
Congrats to your son. Mine is also a college programmer who just wrapped his CO interview last week, delayed for 1 week for DS to battle COVID. When did your DS get his app and interview finished?
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Submitted in the fall but came back with request for first semester grades so final package was late Dec. We were told (not from here) that a key advantage of re-applying for the National Scholarship instead of waiting for a 3 yr sideload was eligibility to attend CORTRAMID. Understand that both are three years of tuition but the National could be activated this semester and the active scholarship is required for summer cruise.
 
Two random questions -if you are a high schooler who gets NROTC, is the cruise the summer before college or after your first year? also, is there a minimum weight requirement?
 
Squidmom said:
Two random questions -if you are a high schooler who gets NROTC, is the cruise the summer before college or after your first year? also, is there a minimum weight requirement?
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NSI is prior to college. CORTRAMID is 4 weeks during rising sophomore summer.
 
PROTRAMID is the USNA equivalent of CORTRAMID. It used to be done between 3/c and 2/c year, but I believe they recently moved it to between 4/c and 3/c year as well.
 
Squidmom said:
Two random questions -if you are a high schooler who gets NROTC, is the cruise the summer before college or after your first year? also, is there a minimum weight requirement?
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The Naval Academy had a minimum weight requirement. It was 100 pounds because I remember a female classmate who barely made it. She was tiny. I'm not sure if it still exists or not and whether it applies to NROTC. Several rules are different between the two programs.
 
Does NROTC coordinate with AROTC on notification dates? I've already heard from Army but am still waiting on Navy, however there's a deadline for accepting my Army scholarship.
 
SVfather said:
Congrats to your son. Mine is also a college programmer who just wrapped his CO interview last week, delayed for 1 week for DS to battle COVID. When did your DS get his app and interview finished?
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My son completed everything around early December, and was only waiting on his first semester grades. Those were submitted in early January. He was selected in a January board.

He actually interviewed with his LT advisor, if I remember correctly, not his PNS/CO. He did that in November I believe.

I pushed him to get everything done, both for the NROTC app, and his Academy app and associated nominations, before the end of the calendar year. Now he can focus on the Spring semester, which is a tougher one for him (Calc, Chem II, Intro to Eng, etc.), without having to worry about completing things.
 
Bushrod said:
The AROTC scholarship acceptance is nonbinding. Accept it before you miss the deadline!
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What do you mean by non-binding? My DS is awaiting word from AFROTC National Scholarship and also USAFA but has received the ROTC scholarship. He is hoping to go Air Force but is happy to serve no matter what.
 
emcconnell said:
What do you mean by non-binding? My DS is awaiting word from AFROTC National Scholarship and also USAFA but has received the ROTC scholarship. He is hoping to go Air Force but is happy to serve no matter what.
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It means he is not locked into the AROTC scholarship because he accepted it first.
 
Soooo…did all the results for the last board get released yesterday? Does anyone expect there will be more notifications today?
 
Csmor said:
Soooo…did all the results for the last board get released yesterday? Does anyone expect there will be more notifications today?
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Everyone should know by now. And the NROTC units are likely reaching out as well. Just make sure people are checking spam folders.
 
GWU PNS said:
While I want to applaud units for sending out congratulatory notices, I honestly wish they wouldn't. For exactly the reason you mention....it is hard to know what that means.

For each board that convenes, as they do their ranking, there are the selected list, and then there are a few that were close enough that they are placed in a bin of alternates. Once in a while, especially on the early boards, applicants drop out for a number of reasons. Maybe they were offered a USNA appointment, or a different SA, or maybe they had a medical issue and are no longer competitive, or they really only wanted 1 college and got rejected, so they are going to wait for next year. Anyway, when they make their decision early enough that they won't accept the scholarship offer, it creates an opening.

As those openings increase, we look at the alternate pool to potentially fill them. But, we have to gather up all the alternates and see what their scores are, and then rack and stack those. So the truth is, the alternates will be waiting for quite a bit before hearing back on anything. And there is no way to know where you fall in the list of alternates.

What I can say is that if a person made it to the alternate list, then their record was very competitive. And they have a high likelihood at getting the 3 year sideload even if they don't get the 4 year offer.
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Sir,
Just a question on your last paragraph - by "side load," you mean those alternates who enroll in NROTC at college without a scholarship and reapply for a scholarsihp based on their first semester grades and performance?
 
A current college programmer (someone not on scholarship, but participating within the unit) will be put in for the 3 or 2 year scholarships (side load) by the unit. There are significantly less applicants for those as they need to be in college already, and often already in a unit. My understanding is that there is one board for those that meets after the school year.

Each one has specific requirements for credit levels already accomplished, and each has a different "payback" for the award. The less the scholarship, the less time a midshipmen is contracted to serve after commissioning.

Current Freshman in units will often apply for the national 4 year one (which is what this thread and others are talking about), and typically have to wait for their Fall transcript to be submitted to be considered. That ends up getting the candidate an award in their Spring semester, with disbursement not actually happening until the next Fall for tuition. BUT .... it does allow the Freshman to be able to participate in summer programs as they will officially be on scholarship, while the side loaded candidates may not be yet (since the board for those is in the summer I believe).

The CAPT will probably correct any errors ^^^^.
 
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glen said:
Sir,
Just a question on your last paragraph - by "side load," you mean those alternates who enroll in NROTC at college without a scholarship and reapply for a scholarsihp based on their first semester grades and performance?
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That is basically correct. When we do the major scholarship awards for traditional high school seniors, those are offered a 4 year scholarship. And this year we had several people who were technically college freshmen (aka MIDN 4/C) who also competed for these 4 year scholarships.

Then we have the walk on folks who are referred to as College Programmers. While they did not get selected for the 4 year scholarship they participate in unit activities and get interviewed by the PNS. If they are good, and get a favorable review, then they can be selected for either a 3 year or 2 year side load scholarship. Side load is an odd term of art from when the processing offices were down in Pensacola. The 4 year scholarships were handled in one area, and then off to the side of the building, people worked on the 3 and 2 years. Since it was off to the side, they were "side loads."

And Ironman's post above is correct. He is completing his apprenticeship to replace me. :cool:
 
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