Slate question

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If there is a heavily recruited athlete on a MOCs slate, and assuming it’s an athlete the coach really wants, does that have a significant impact on the slate’s other candidates chances that are NOT recruited athletes?
 
Not necessarily. Too many factors to tell you yes or no. Said athlete could also have the highest WCS. Bottom line... you put your best package together and multiple people off a slate can get appointed.
 
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@Ramgoat18 I am sorry you did not like my comment. However I did find your comment snarky. You seem to know an awful lot for being a person who attempting to gain an Appointment and questioning or basically offering an opinion that is in stark contrast to two BGO's. Your LOL comment is very disturbing to me.
 
I’m sorry you feel that way. Wasn’t meant to be snarky, but having a recruited athlete 100% will not help the cause. I added the lol part so you would know I wasn’t being rude, but it had the opposite affect @ThePatternisFull
 
I’m sorry you feel that way. Wasn’t meant to be snarky, but having a recruited athlete 100% will not help the cause. I added the lol part so you would know I wasn’t being rude, but it had the opposite affect @ThePatternisFull
If the athlete is a recruited athlete and you are ranked higher on the slate you will get the Appointment. If they are ranked higher they will get the appointment. If the recruited athlete is a "blue chip" USNA can and will find a place for them if they are qualified. As Hoops mentioned there can be more than one appointment from a slate. Since the application process has closed there is nothing that can be done at this time. Best of luck to you.
 
I’m sorry you feel that way. Wasn’t meant to be snarky, but having a recruited athlete 100% will not help the cause. I added the lol part so you would know I wasn’t being rude, but it had the opposite affect @ThePatternisFull
If the athlete is a recruited athlete and you are ranked higher on the slate you will get the Appointment. If they are ranked higher they will get the appointment. If the recruited athlete is a "blue chip" USNA can and will find a place for them if they are qualified. As Hoops mentioned there can be more than one appointment from a slate. Since the application process has closed there is nothing that can be done at this time. Best of luck to you.

Thank you. What I was originally intending to say is that I couldn’t think of an instance where it would help you to have a recruited athlete on your slate. It probably wouldn’t affect the applicant, but I know it wouldn’t help me
 
I’m sorry you feel that way. Wasn’t meant to be snarky, but having a recruited athlete 100% will not help the cause. I added the lol part so you would know I wasn’t being rude, but it had the opposite affect @ThePatternisFull
If the athlete is a recruited athlete and you are ranked higher on the slate you will get the Appointment. If they are ranked higher they will get the appointment. If the recruited athlete is a "blue chip" USNA can and will find a place for them if they are qualified. As Hoops mentioned there can be more than one appointment from a slate. Since the application process has closed there is nothing that can be done at this time. Best of luck to you.

Thank you. What I was originally intending to say is that I couldn’t think of an instance where it would help you to have a recruited athlete on your slate. It probably wouldn’t affect the applicant, but I know it wouldn’t help me
Why do you believe it wouldn't help? No one except the admissions boar knows the WCS of the candidates and their ranking on the respective slates. I know the waiting is extremely difficult for all who have not hear anything positive or negative. But as it has been said many times on theses forums if you have not received a TWE you still have a chance. I am telling my candidates to keep the faith. Plus have a solid plan B, C , D and F.
 
I’m sorry you feel that way. Wasn’t meant to be snarky, but having a recruited athlete 100% will not help the cause. I added the lol part so you would know I wasn’t being rude, but it had the opposite affect @ThePatternisFull
If the athlete is a recruited athlete and you are ranked higher on the slate you will get the Appointment. If they are ranked higher they will get the appointment. If the recruited athlete is a "blue chip" USNA can and will find a place for them if they are qualified. As Hoops mentioned there can be more than one appointment from a slate. Since the application process has closed there is nothing that can be done at this time. Best of luck to you.

Thank you. What I was originally intending to say is that I couldn’t think of an instance where it would help you to have a recruited athlete on your slate. It probably wouldn’t affect the applicant, but I know it wouldn’t help me
Why do you believe it wouldn't help? No one except the admissions boar knows the WCS of the candidates and their ranking on the respective slates. I know the waiting is extremely difficult for all who have not hear anything positive or negative. But as it has been said many times on theses forums if you have not received a TWE you still have a chance. I am telling my candidates to keep the faith. Plus have a solid plan B, C , D and F.


I just couldn’t think of an instance where a recruited athlete on a slate could help the other memebers of the slate. It would just make the slate more competitive to have someone the academy wants for sports
 
If an SA wants a particular candidate, it doesn't matter whether there's a recruited athlete on said candidate's MOC slate or not. As long as said candidate is high enough on the SA's list, they'll find a way to issue an offer of appointment.

For those who are worried about whether a recruited athlete is on their slate or somehow standing in their way, three thoughts: (1) put forward your best possible package, because that's all you can do; (2) don't worry about the recruited athlete because there's nothing you can do about it; (3) don't assume that a recruited athlete is higher on the pecking order than you are.
 
The recruited athlete might not be 3Q or maybe the coaches want them at NAPS for a year. Just giving a different view. What if that athlete is water walker with their stats and is the clear winner to the slate? What I am getting at... you can what if this thing to death. There are dozens and dozens of examples of multiple candidates getting appointments from the same school, town, slate. I get everyone is anxious, but there is no black and white answer to this.
 
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Right now I know for a fact my DD school has 2 students that have been offered appointments. Keep the faith.
 
I just couldn’t think of an instance where a recruited athlete on a slate could help the other memebers of the slate. It would just make the slate more competitive to have someone the academy wants for sports

This statement doesn’t even make sense. No one, athlete or not, “helps” other members on a slate. Everyone competes their best.

BTW, I have a ton of respect for athletes that compete for the academy. Big time.
 
I just couldn’t think of an instance where a recruited athlete on a slate could help the other memebers of the slate. It would just make the slate more competitive to have someone the academy wants for sports

This statement doesn’t even make sense. No one, athlete or not, “helps” other members on a slate. Everyone competes their best.

BTW, I have a ton of respect for athletes that compete for the academy. Big time.

Having a recruited athlete on your slate hurts your chances of getting in. It’s pretty simple what I’m trying to say. It’s the same as having a stellar student that has sat scores and grades that are insanely impressive. If those candidates weren’t on the slate it would be easier for the other candidates to get accepted. If they weren’t on the slate it would indirectly benefit candidates below them on the slate
 
It also might not help you if someone else on your slate has 1600 SATs, stands #1 in his/ her class, took all AP classes offered, attended Boy’s/Girl’s State, is an Eagle Scout/Gold Medal Award, class president, founded a club that now has 100 members, plays 3 varsity sports, works part-time, is the first in the family to attend college, volunteers at a homeless shelter, is a PADI-certified scuba diver,and speaks Arabic fluently.

The fact is that there are all sorts of things others may have that you don’t. Being a recruited athlete is only one of them. You can only control your own situation. Worrying about what others may have that you don’t is rarely a good strategy for success.

The fact is that most candidates who get noms are pretty outstanding. So are many who don’t get noms.
 
I’m sorry you feel that way. Wasn’t meant to be snarky, but having a recruited athlete 100% will not help the cause. I added the lol part so you would know I wasn’t being rude, but it had the opposite affect @ThePatternisFull
If the athlete is a recruited athlete and you are ranked higher on the slate you will get the Appointment. If they are ranked higher they will get the appointment. If the recruited athlete is a "blue chip" USNA can and will find a place for them if they are qualified. As Hoops mentioned there can be more than one appointment from a slate. Since the application process has closed there is nothing that can be done at this time. Best of luck to you.
I think this was the answer I was looking for in my poorly worded OP. It sounds like the most qualified person would win the slate and if they have to figure out the recruited afterwards they do - vs awarding the slate to the athlete (assuming he is not really the highest WCS) and trying to figure out what to do with the most qualified candidate. I certainly understand the point of just put you best foot forward and focus on what you can control.
My DS will be a 2024 candidate and there are no recruited athletes that I know of, I was just curious how they handle situations such as this. To a newbie, the structure of limiting MOCs to 5 slots per SA makes situations like this complicated.
 
To a newbie, the structure of limiting MOCs to 5 slots per SA makes situations like this complicated.

That is really a minimum (provided there are sufficient qualified applicants) and there are districts that get a lot more than that.

As for your comment that "There are no recruited athletes that I know of", I am really curious how you might know that. I'm a BGO with lots of info sources and I have no idea if there are any recruited athletes for 2024 in my congressional district. I live in a fairly densely populated area so the district itself is not physically large but there are lots of high schools and many sports involved.

To put your mind at ease (hopefully). In late 2006 when my son was an applicant, I knew of and had spoken with a home school kid from our district who was also applying and had been the top finished in the state Cross Country Meet of Champions. My son was a pretty good High School runner but nowhere near this kid who was a Division 1 recruit to a number of programs. Even with that, I really was not worried as I could see where my son was with regard to the class profiles and other kids in prior years from our highly competitive district. Long Story short, both this other kid and my son made it in and graduated. That other kid did manage to be one of the best in the country at the NCAA championships in a couple of track events while my son was a varsity athlete in another sport.

Bottom Line - it really isn't something to worry about. Your kid needs to put up great numbers and if they are good enough, USNA will usually find a way to take them.
 
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