New Student Indoctrination (Summer 2019)

njrotcmom1035 said:
Bov said:
Could you post if you are able to see DS in the video on slow motion? I tried screen shots and enlarging, but still could not tell my DS. It’s shocking, I feel like I know him so well! If I could see the legs, I could spot mine right away - thin and muscular. Thanks to everyone for posting info. Super helpful to this mom!
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I was able to spot my DS when I rewatched the video and kept pausing it to get a good look. It was hard though and I was like what I should know my son but they all look alike!
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NROTC Facebook page just posted more pictures from yesterday...
 
Skrisma said:
njrotcmom1035 said:
Bov said:
Could you post if you are able to see DS in the video on slow motion? I tried screen shots and enlarging, but still could not tell my DS. It’s shocking, I feel like I know him so well! If I could see the legs, I could spot mine right away - thin and muscular. Thanks to everyone for posting info. Super helpful to this mom!
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I was able to spot my DS when I rewatched the video and kept pausing it to get a good look. It was hard though and I was like what I should know my son but they all look alike!
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NROTC Facebook page just posted more pictures from yesterday...
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I have not been able to open the pictures yet. Might be a Facebook issue?
 
njrotcmom1035 said:
Wow thanks for the great recap! I watched the live stream and downloaded it so I could go in slow motion. It was very hard to pick my son out in the sea of bald heads, lol. He knew it was a possibility but wasn't sure if it would happen or not. We've done 2 weeks at rotc leadership academy with no contact so just one more week. I'm just pretending he is there again, but I do already miss him.
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Tiger T said:
Skrisma said:
njrotcmom1035 said:
Bov said:
Could you post if you are able to see DS in the video on slow motion? I tried screen shots and enlarging, but still could not tell my DS. It’s shocking, I feel like I know him so well! If I could see the legs, I could spot mine right away - thin and muscular. Thanks to everyone for posting info. Super helpful to this mom!
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I was able to spot my DS when I rewatched the video and kept pausing it to get a good look. It was hard though and I was like what I should know my son but they all look alike!
Click to expand...
NROTC Facebook page just posted more pictures from yesterday...
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I have not been able to open the pictures yet. Might be a Facebook issue?
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Facebook Instagram and WhatsApp are all having issues today. Word is FB is working on it.
 
Update for my case on NSI. I was attending cycle 1 of NSI. Long story short: a few hours after being at NSI i had a freak medical emergency and was rushed to the hospital. I was there for 3 days before being medically disqualified at NSI and dropped. They sent me and 3 other people (all medically discharged as well) home. My scholarship was rescinded due to being medically disqualified (not everyone else’s scholarships were rescinded just because they were medically dq’d- it depends on the case).

My take away on the little bit of NSI I experienced: very confusing and unorganized. I completely understand this though due to this being a new program. Many, if not all, of the staff midshipman were sleep deprived and/or food deprived due to being understaffed and stretched thin. Also, on the night where uniforms were distributed- a company of males was in uniform pick up ALL night and did not sleep at all (this was day 2). Several other kinks that were really weird and definitely out of wack. But then again- this is a new thing so it is understandable to not have everything perfect.

NSI is definitely a stressful environment and is not a joke. A big help would be knowing your rank structures and general orders before you go.
 
Also: for those of you flying in, bring a pair of night clothes to sleep in the night you get to NSI along with another pair of normal clothes & extra undergarments. No one in cycle 1 was informed of this and therefore most of us went to bed in jeans (ur also not allowed to shower the first night).


Males!! They will shave ur head on the 2nd day of NSI!!! No one was informed of this until it happened. Females!! They will cut your hair to regulation if you cannot put it up properly and up to standard. Also females, bring feminine hygiene products!

Everyone there is definitely miserable and it is for sure a stressful and serious environment. Goodluck to everyone still there!

If anyone has any questions you can feel free to message me!
 
KP1990 said:
So much for telling the kids to report with hair within appropriate Navy grooming standards. Those kids heads are shaved and I'm pretty sure they didnt all report like that.
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Mine paid for a haircut the week before. I'm sure he was a tad shocked at the traditional boot camp haircut!
 
abbyad01 said:
Update for my case on NSI. I was attending cycle 1 of NSI. Long story short: a few hours after being at NSI i had a freak medical emergency and was rushed to the hospital. I was there for 3 days before being medically disqualified at NSI and dropped. They sent me and 3 other people (all medically discharged as well) home. My scholarship was rescinded due to being medically disqualified (not everyone else’s scholarships were rescinded just because they were medically dq’d- it depends on the case).

My take away on the little bit of NSI I experienced: very confusing and unorganized. I completely understand this though due to this being a new program. Many, if not all, of the staff midshipman were sleep deprived and/or food deprived due to being understaffed and stretched thin. Also, on the night where uniforms were distributed- a company of males was in uniform pick up ALL night and did not sleep at all (this was day 2). Several other kinks that were really weird and definitely out of wack. But then again- this is a new thing so it is understandable to not have everything perfect.

NSI is definitely a stressful environment and is not a joke. A big help would be knowing your rank structures and general orders before you go.
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I'm so sorry to hear you were DQ'd. :( I hope that you are on a path to healing from all that has occurred.

I appreciate your sharing your experience as I've heard from another source that this was quite the unorganized chaotic scene this past week. Your sharing confirmed this as well. While this isn't USMC boot camp, I didn't expect to hear that they were not providing enough food for all and that perhaps some of these Midshipmen doing the training might be approaching hazing levels with little supervision. I realize this is 'tear them down, build them up' as I've been through this myself and have another son in the USMC. I did not understand the extent they would go to on their first official attempt at required NSI. Mind blown. :confused:
 
I'm very sorry to hear this, @abbyad01. I can only imagine how difficult that must be to process, though knowing how strong you must be to have received this scholarship in the first place and from the strong character you've displayed in many posts, you have a lot to build on and forward forward to... I would just offer that as you evaluate your next steps and options, please let those of us on this board know if you need any guidance or support.
abbyad01 said:
Update for my case on NSI. I was attending cycle 1 of NSI. Long story short: a few hours after being at NSI i had a freak medical emergency and was rushed to the hospital. I was there for 3 days before being medically disqualified at NSI and dropped.
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Heads up for 2nd block
Get your head in the game.
Lock and load

NSI is a full on bootcamp. It’s extremely intense mentally and physically with sleep deprivation and limited food and time to eat. Eat fast. The full monty breaks are in effect, at least week 1. The kids there had no idea what they were walking into. Based on that description .... get ready. Take your badass mindset because they are going next level with the breakdown methods. Don’t let them get in your heads. The upper class midshipmen are running things and they are not playing nice.

Block 1 = clueless. They thought NSO but as a big group. It’s not. They basically walked into D Day in their khaki pants carrying cell phones and wallets. Everything but medicine (and tampons and pass) was confiscated..... including their sneakers. Watches taken as well - contraband. They were issued everything from there. They are allowed to pick up a few misc items at the exchange as well .... if they don’t run out which did happen.

The 5:30-9pm day designated by the Captain at Q&A isn’t the case. Guys up all night of night 2. They ran out of sunscreen .... so not everyone wasn’t issued. Our kid is deep fried. There is no talking allowed. No personal conversations allowed. No moral support. They are nameless “candidates”. Freezing showers and cold barracks (at least for girls). It’s being run by midshipmen who put on their maniac hats to really unleash the whoopass. Life back in the barracks is not relaxed. Drills continue. No personal conversation. Lots of mind f*#*ery to get you rattled. Lots of nasty direct verbal personal attacks by mids to candidates. I mean .... nasty and bordering disciplinary worthy. Night watch rotations. Everything is timed and you gotta move FAST sometimes doing things that seem ridiculous and insane. Mids running all of that.

Hopefully this helps you all in 2nd block “game up” at least a little. It’s pretty impossible to “be prepared” so just take your strong courageous badass mindset. Be unbreakable. Find your mental sweet spot to go to when it gets really off the rails. Do you know what the knowledge book is? Find out. Learn it cover to cover.....Memorize it. Allll of it. The more you can spout off immediately upon question, the better. Know ranks. You will carry your knowledge books everywhere. You will also wear a camelback at all times for hydration. You will do a lot of marching. Shoes are not comfortable. Be prepared for blisters and chafing. Gunny’s and Chiefs will ride you tight. The midshipmen will be all up in your business .... constantly. You will not like them .... at all. You may not even respect them. Dig deep. You will respect the Gunny’s and Chiefs. They are inbounds. There are few officers to be found. Word from officers inside is that they are short staffed.

Make sure you bring $200 for your toiletries issued, your photo is, health insurance card, and complete vaccination record or they will revac for meningitis. No paperwork...you get the shot. They will blood test there for sickle cell. Quite a few passed out during that. Men, your heads will be shaved immediately. Women, if you hair can’t be in a bun they will cut your hair to regulation. If you have highlights or obviously dyed hair, they will make you dye it with box dye you will have to buy on base. No ponytails. No flyaways so get the nasty hair gel when you have a chance at the exchange.

It feels pretty chaotic and disorganized when there so having a mindset to flow through that is key too.

My kid was dismissed from NSI following injury sustained while there so she just got home. Her scholarship is intact but she is very disappointed. She left never learning anyone’s name or college. She said it is by far the hardest experience of her life and straight up hell on earth. She has sooooo much more respect for all of you amazing courageous selfless people who give so much and put yourself through so much so we can all enjoy our great freedom. Thank you!

There are a lot of candidates getting injured and experiencing weird health occurrences so be smart, be careful and DO NOT hesitate to ask for help when you need it. Get to Medical. Don’t mess around.

Anywhoooo ..... I wanted to give you “lucky” 2nd blockers the benefit of unedited real time knowledge to prepare that the 1st-ers weren’t provided as a chance to be a little more prepared and ready to hit it hard. Going in blind in no way to go. I don’t want to scare you to death, however, but you are going to unedited fast paced hard as hell bootcamp.
 
@SWB1972 Thanks for the feedback. Exactly as I imagined it would be. No doubt many will question if they want to be there, and some will decide 'no'.
 
SWB1972 said:
Heads up for 2nd block
Get your head in the game.
Lock and load

NSI is a full on bootcamp. It’s extremely intense mentally and physically with sleep deprivation and limited food and time to eat. Eat fast. The full monty breaks are in effect, at least week 1. The kids there had no idea what they were walking into. Based on that description .... get ready. Take your badass mindset because they are going next level with the breakdown methods. Don’t let them get in your heads. The upper class midshipmen are running things and they are not playing nice.

Block 1 = clueless. They thought NSO but as a big group. It’s not. They basically walked into D Day in their khaki pants carrying cell phones and wallets. Everything but medicine (and tampons and pass) was confiscated..... including their sneakers. Watches taken as well - contraband. They were issued everything from there. They are allowed to pick up a few misc items at the exchange as well .... if they don’t run out which did happen.

The 5:30-9pm day designated by the Captain at Q&A isn’t the case. Guys up all night of night 2. They ran out of sunscreen .... so not everyone wasn’t issued. Our kid is deep fried. There is no talking allowed. No personal conversations allowed. No moral support. They are nameless “candidates”. Freezing showers and cold barracks (at least for girls). It’s being run by midshipmen who put on their maniac hats to really unleash the whoopass. Life back in the barracks is not relaxed. Drills continue. No personal conversation. Lots of mind f*#*ery to get you rattled. Lots of nasty direct verbal personal attacks by mids to candidates. I mean .... nasty and bordering disciplinary worthy. Night watch rotations. Everything is timed and you gotta move FAST sometimes doing things that seem ridiculous and insane. Mids running all of that.

Hopefully this helps you all in 2nd block “game up” at least a little. It’s pretty impossible to “be prepared” so just take your strong courageous badass mindset. Be unbreakable. Find your mental sweet spot to go to when it gets really off the rails. Do you know what the knowledge book is? Find out. Learn it cover to cover.....Memorize it. Allll of it. The more you can spout off immediately upon question, the better. Know ranks. You will carry your knowledge books everywhere. You will also wear a camelback at all times for hydration. You will do a lot of marching. Shoes are not comfortable. Be prepared for blisters and chafing. Gunny’s and Chiefs will ride you tight. The midshipmen will be all up in your business .... constantly. You will not like them .... at all. You may not even respect them. Dig deep. You will respect the Gunny’s and Chiefs. They are inbounds. There are few officers to be found. Word from officers inside is that they are short staffed.

Make sure you bring $200 for your toiletries issued, your photo is, health insurance card, and complete vaccination record or they will revac for meningitis. No paperwork...you get the shot. They will blood test there for sickle cell. Quite a few passed out during that. Men, your heads will be shaved immediately. Women, if you hair can’t be in a bun they will cut your hair to regulation. If you have highlights or obviously dyed hair, they will make you dye it with box dye you will have to buy on base. No ponytails. No flyaways so get the nasty hair gel when you have a chance at the exchange.

It feels pretty chaotic and disorganized when there so having a mindset to flow through that is key too.

My kid was dismissed from NSI following injury sustained while there so she just got home. Her scholarship is intact but she is very disappointed. She left never learning anyone’s name or college. She said it is by far the hardest experience of her life and straight up hell on earth. She has sooooo much more respect for all of you amazing courageous selfless people who give so much and put yourself through so much so we can all enjoy our great freedom. Thank you!

There are a lot of candidates getting injured and experiencing weird health occurrences so be smart, be careful and DO NOT hesitate to ask for help when you need it. Get to Medical. Don’t mess around.

Anywhoooo ..... I wanted to give you “lucky” 2nd blockers the benefit of unedited real time knowledge to prepare that the 1st-ers weren’t provided as a chance to be a little more prepared and ready to hit it hard. Going in blind in no way to go. I don’t want to scare you to death, however, but you are going to unedited fast paced hard as hell bootcamp.
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I’m very sorry that your daughter was injured, and commend her for coming this far. Best of luck to her. I’d like to put this into some perspective for the second block candidates. For reference, while I don’t know what is currently going on at NSI, I attended USMC OCS over 25 years ago (Col Fox was CO, attrition rate 50 percent) I went back as a platoon commander, and I’ve served on military staff in a legal capacity, so I’m quite familiar issues facing training commands. I’ll keep this relatively (relatively) short and sweet:
1. Understand that you’re being evaluated on how you respond to certain situations. There may be no right answer, so don’t freak out. How do you handle the stress? Be cool.
2. The first week is always the worst. Always. For the staff and for you. I remember looking around my squad bay on the 3rd night of OCS knowing I made a huge mistake. I was wrong. You’ll be wrong too.
3. Three weeks isn’t forever. Take it meal to meal. Time goes faster that way.
4. You’re young, so you should be in shape. If not, start today. You have a couple of weeks.
5. A lot of people are reading this forum, so if there is anything remotely funny going on, as implied, NSI legal probably will be aware of this issue tomorrow, if not today. Commands take this issue seriously, especially these days.
6. Get used to being told that that you’re bad at something, USAT, etc. Especially early on. I was horrible at everything, or so I was told. Let it roll off your back, all part of the game.
7. Bring your toughest mindset. Remember — Be cool. Meal to meal. Eye of the Tiger. Semper Fidelis.
 
May I ask if you or anyone on the board has the knowledge book, or could share a copy? I'm doing some internet searches - found the plebe knowledge book for the academy - but haven't yet found it for NSI - can anyone please share it? Thanks!

[QUOTE="SWB1972, Do you know what the knowledge book is? Find out. Learn it cover to cover.....Memorize it. Allll of it.
 
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