2024 ships selection 🚢

I love watching ship selection!! so great to see these Midshipmen picking their ship and the songs are just so fun!! and the announcers!! cant wait for next year and my daughters class!!!
 
JudgeGuy said:
Well this is weak by YouTube... and I guess Sony.. I went back to show DW and it looks like replay is blocked likely due to the walkup songs.
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Give me a break......
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I saw that had happened to some people who were streaming. But not to *most*. I wonder why???

We watched with no issues. Why were you singled out?
 
justdoit19 said:
I saw that had happened to some people who were streaming. But not to *most*. I wonder why???

We watched with no issues. Why were you singled out?
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It is the entire video now. Live, it seemed like it worked. At least I didn't hear anyone complaining about being locked out. A few minutes afterward, I went back to rewatch a couple and it just said blocked. Then it said due to SME.

IIRC, last year didnt have walkup music, so no issues. 2022 did. That video is up. I wonder if this is something that someone has to unruffle some feathers to get the block removed?
 
It was interesting to see the trending vs previous couple years. Japan definitely took longer to deplete than normal. Expected port shifts explained a couple of late taken ships. US ports seemed equally desirable this time. (Even Norfolk felt like it had more love than previous years).

DS said the change to remove the "Nuke or EDO Available" category really changed the process. EDO/Nukes earlier in the picking order were not able to pick the port they wanted due to fewer slots available to them. So, they were grabbing more US ports earlier than would have last year. That also left the forward ports available longer for conventional to pick.
 
justme said:
It was interesting to see the trending vs previous couple years. Japan definitely took longer to deplete than normal. Expected port shifts explained a couple of late taken ships. US ports seemed equally desirable this time. (Even Norfolk felt like it had more love than previous years).

DS said the change to remove the "Nuke or EDO Available" category really changed the process. EDO/Nukes earlier in the picking order were not able to pick the port they wanted due to fewer slots available to them. So, they were grabbing more US ports earlier than would have last year. That also left the forward ports available longer for conventional to pick.
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Can you expand upon your second paragraph? I didn’t follow 🤔

It also seemed like there were only a few blue chips. That seems different than pre-Covid (I know fleet availability had impact on blue chipping in recent years bc of COVID (ie: my ‘22 wasn’t able to go for a blue chip he was hoping for as his port ended up not being open for travel. He actually wasn’t even able to do a firstie SWO cruise).
 
justdoit19 said:
Can you expand upon your second paragraph? I didn’t follow 🤔
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Last year, using Rota only as example, there were 10 slots. 2 Nuke only, 4 Conventional only, 1 bluechip, and 3 that were Nuke Available (Nukes and conventional could pick.) so, Nukes had 5 slots they could choose for Rota. This year, same 10 slots. IIRC, there were 8 conventional and 2 Nuke Only. So, they only had access to 2 slots vs 5 last year. With Japan similar, the 3rd Rota Nuke wannabe would likely have to choose a US port instead, even if they were in the top 20-30 overall.
 
Anyone have guesses as to why they make certain SWO DIVO conventional or Nuke only? Are the Nuke only DIVO's more related to engineering/mechanical? To spread out the SWO-Nuke options around the ports? I really have no idea. I get that they have SWO's with options for Nuke, EDO, and others. I'm just wondering why the limit port options for these JO's.
 
Ihavenoidea said:
Anyone have guesses as to why they make certain SWO DIVO conventional or Nuke only? Are the Nuke only DIVO's more related to engineering/mechanical? To spread out the SWO-Nuke options around the ports? I really have no idea. I get that they have SWO's with options for Nuke, EDO, and others. I'm just wondering why the limit port options for these JO's.
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Same thoughts. And Why the change?
 
justdoit19 said:
Same thoughts. And Why the change?
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Only thing I come up with is that SWO Nuke, EDO, and other options have a higher proportion of being towards the top of the OOM. Maybe this was seen as "unfair" for conventional SWO's. So they limit the availability of of the more in demand forward ports. Now this is a complete guess based on very little information. So take it with a grain of salt.

It might be as simple as the SWO Nuke & EDO spots are just more suited to those option JO's anyway so they make those as NUKE EDO only.
 
A couple observations in my unqualified opinion.
  1. The Xfers aren't expected to continue in exact same pipeline after getting pinned so there is likely some priority to favoring the conventional. IE, they need so many to continue to DH level and they've found that getting "sexier" port/ship choices early lead to better retention? I also think that USNA likely wants to favor Conventional as well with this approach, so as to help make it look desirable vs the bottom of bottle swill.
  2. EDO only have US Ports. Maybe that is a cost saving measure.
  3. And the Option group only had large ships available to them (CVN/LHA/Ds.) CVNs were only available to Options and no one else.
  4. Nukes are the only Xfer group that have similar port/ship choices as conventional.
  5. There looked to be less "waste" this year. IE, last year more unpicked slots since they had to plan for Nukes taking all of the Nuke Available vs Nuke Only and having enough conventional only slots for the conventionals to at least have a pick. This year, they could specifically count exactly the need. I think the Option group didnt have any leftovers. Not sure what benefit that gives big Navy other than possible paperwork/logistics reductions.
 
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