AFROTC EA due date

Thinking about Plan B (I always was a pessimist): Do you have to be offered the opportunity to continue as a 500 - or is it totally your choice? Would you lose your scholarship if you continue on as a 500?
 
ERAUMattmom said:
I respect both your - Non Ducor Duco and Jcleppe's opinion on this. My opinion is what it is.....that's why it is called an opinion and you can't be upset with a person for having one that happens to be different than yours.

While I sympathize with what you both are saying...my response was to the OP's claim that the announcements won't be made until later this week so that it would give cadets a chance to decide whether or not they want to continue.

MY OPINION is that it is possible to announce the EA's and still give the cadets the time they need to make those decisions...

Out of respect for those who DO get EA's ...the more time that they have to arrange their summers the better....and we are running out of time...

IN MY OPINION that trumps being sensitive to those with disappointing news.

I am fine with you having a different opinion. That is part of what makes this such an amazing country...it's OK to disagree..
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I'm not upset with your opinion, just suggesting you look at it a different way. It's easy to say now what you'd do if the axe dropped on you, it's harder to deal with it when it actually happens.

And I agree, what the poster said about why EAs would be delayed sounds odd. I want them released as soon as possible like everyone else, if they're not it probably won't be the det's decision, Holm Center will make that call. Otherwise, in order to be sensitive to everyone, cadre will probably just individually email cadets who didn't get EAs the night before they let the wing know and tell them not to come to LLAB that day or report to them earlier in the day to give them the bad news in person.

All I can say is that I'm tired of the roller coaster that has been this semester and am ready for it to end.

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MSFaygo,

1)Yes, you have to be offered the opportunity to continue as a 500, this is given at the discretion of your Det Commander, and it is then your choice to take it or leave it.
2) I'm not entirely sure, that's a good question. If you don't get an EA because you failed to get the gpa minimum in your contract you will lose your scholarship, but I'm not sure what happens if you kept a decent gpa, meet all requirements, but still didn't get selected and then decided to try and continue on as a 500. My guess is no, but I have no idea.
 
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Det 157 PIR is tomorrow.....I don't think that there could be a lot of class time after that ...could there be?


I will also concede the fact that it is entirely possible that my view is influenced by the fact that my DS has an extremely solid Plan B in place. No doubt that my views might be different if my DS's whole world was going to be turned upside down by not getting an EA. I suppose that is the case for some if not many.

While Matt would love nothing more than getting an EA and going to MAX 1... he is prepared to accept the possibility of that not happening and has steps in place in the event that plan B becomes a necessity. I have no doubt that those who have a new goal in place to strive for will find it easier to make it past any disappointing news.
 
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ERAUMattmom said:
Pass in Review
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Right, that's what I thought but I've never seen it used in acronym form.

Pass in Review doesn't actually take a whole lot of time. Probably 15-20 min or so to execute it. You spend most of that LLAB just doing run throughs. If the cadre need extra time they can just cancel the run throughs and tell them to perform the actual right away. Or if not, I'm sure all they have to say is that EAs are out and those cadets will make time:wink:.
 
Afrotcman829 said:
EAs have been released to Holm Center and are waiting to be released to the detachments until Thursday or Friday. The numbers are low due to budget cuts. They wait to release them until the end of the week so that the cadets who don't get one can decide over the weekend if they want to continue on.



Kind of a sad thing to hear, that the numbers are pretty low, but remember as long as you did the best you could you should be proud. Any AS200 that's been through 2 years and a semester of field training preparation can pat themselves on the back because many do not even make it that far and it is an excellent learning experience they can take into any career field. Good luck to all.
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Did you hear this from your Cadre?
 
Non Ducor Duco said:
Right, that's what I thought but I've never seen it used in acronym form.

Pass in Review doesn't actually take a whole lot of time. Probably 15-20 min or so to execute it. You spend most of that LLAB just doing run throughs. If the cadre need extra time they can just cancel the run throughs and tell them to perform the actual right away. Or if not, I'm sure all they have to say is that EAs are out and those cadets will make time:wink:.
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At ERAU it takes about 2 to 3 times that long...at least the PIR on You Tube from 2011 did.

I believe that is their last lead lab. The last day of regular school classes is next Thursday. From what I remember ROTC was usually finished before the rest of the academic classes were.
 
ERAUMattmom said:
At ERAU it takes about 2 to 3 times that long...at least the PIR on You Tube from 2011 did.

I believe that is their last lead lab. The last day of regular school classes is next Thursday. From what I remember ROTC was usually finished before the rest of the academic classes were.
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I just looked at what you were talking about. It took about 16 min for them to do everything up to the end of the national anthem. They then presented a bunch of awards which isn't actually a part of Parade, but ERAU is a large det so I guess it makes sense that they would combine awards and parade. They then spent about 4 minutes doing the actual pass in review in front of the new Wing Commander. So the parade stuff still only took about 20 min, which is what it should take for a Det so large, it's closer to 15 for small or smallish medium sized Dets. With the awards and everything it was 36 min. Still doesn't take up the full hour of LLAB, plenty of time to make announcements if need be. Though this Parade was done at night so I'm guessing they had LLAB earlier in the day and then held parade at night so guests could attend. Or does ERAU normally have LLAB so late??
 
If you don't think it's fair that they don't release them until the end of the week you should reconsider your perspective. Imagine being in one of the cadets shoes, or having a son/daughter who doesn't get an enrollment allocation.. I think as far as the Holm Center is concerned, the least they can do for the hard working cadets who put in countless hours of work and don't get to go, is to give them a few days to let their crushed dreams sink in without having to make any hasty decisions about coming back next year. Your planning can wait a few extra days.

And as for waiting this long to release them, I'm sure the higher ups have their reasons, they didn't get to the positions who make these decisions because they are morons, give them a little credit. If you have any experience in the military at all you know that the wants and needs of the Air Force can change drastically over night, so trying to plan two years in the future might be a little more difficult than it sounds (and you think you're having a tough time planning for the summer? Ironic huh?).
 
Afrotcman829 said:
If you don't think it's fair that they don't release them until the end of the week you should reconsider your perspective. Imagine being in one of the cadets shoes, or having a son/daughter who doesn't get an enrollment allocation.. I think as far as the Holm Center is concerned, the least they can do for the hard working cadets who put in countless hours of work and don't get to go, is to give them a few days to let their crushed dreams sink in without having to make any hasty decisions about coming back next year. Your planning can wait a few extra days.



And as for waiting this long to release them, I'm sure the higher ups have their reasons, they didn't get to the positions who make these decisions because they are morons, give them a little credit. If you have any experience in the military at all you know that the wants and needs of the Air Force can change drastically over night, so trying to plan two years in the future might be a little more difficult than it sounds (and you think you're having a tough time planning for the summer? Ironic huh?).
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Do you mind sharing your source? lol were all curious
 
Actually if you stop and think about it ....

Kind of a sad thing to hear, that the numbers are pretty low, but remember as long as you did the best you could you should be proud. Any AS200 that's been through 2 years and a semester of field training preparation can pat themselves on the back because many do not even make it that far and it is an excellent learning experience they can take into any career field. Good luck to all.

Sounds like something inspirational that the cadre might say to a cadet that they know did not get allocated an EA.....in preparation of the upcoming announcements.
 
Afrotcman829 said:
Can't say sorry, guess you'll just have to wait until the end of the week.
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Since you can't even give your source, i wouldnt take your statement with any truth till i hear it from credible sources. nothing personal, but you have only posted 3 times on these boards and your first post was your statement about EA results. Not that I'm saying you're lying, but you make it hard because you could be anyone posting rumors. Either way though, what you're stating wouldn't be a surprise if it was true because of all the budget cuts.
 
ERAUMattmom said:
Actually if you stop and think about it ....

Kind of a sad thing to hear, that the numbers are pretty low, but remember as long as you did the best you could you should be proud. Any AS200 that's been through 2 years and a semester of field training preparation can pat themselves on the back because many do not even make it that far and it is an excellent learning experience they can take into any career field. Good luck to all.

Sounds like something inspirational that the cadre might say to a cadet that they know did not get allocated an EA.....in preparation of the upcoming announcements.
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Not sure you are really helping matters here.
 
All I know is that my cadre have been saying the whole time that as soon as they know that they would tell us so I'm going to take them at their word and if they know something today I don't think that they would wait until the end of the week.
 
they will let you know when HQ says drop the names. That being said the cadre usually finds out the night before the release date.

One thing to think about is many of you are assuming they will allow you to become a 500. During the years of 55%, most were NOT offered a 500 slot. Our DS had close to 50 go up for SFT. 26 went to SFT, out of the 24 not selected only 2 or 3 were offered a 500 slot.

SFT is not just about training, it is also about Big Blue's MPC staying on target for their manpower needs in 2016. If they have too many attending SFT and graduating than they are going to be in the exact same position with doing a RIF board for those that are commissioning this year.
~~~ If they undershoot the number of SFT cadets, they can always get their target O1 commissions by accepting more via OCS....and cheaper to boot too.

Just saying, it is to your best advantage right now to have plan B in place especially if they are only going to send 55% or less to SFT.
 
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