Afrotc Type 1 Scholarship Stats

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  1. Waltham88

    Waltham88 New Member

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    Hey, I’m new to the forum, and after spending a considerable amount of time looking for information unsuccessfully, I decided to see if anyone here could answer my question.

    I’m curious as to what past Afrotc type 1 scholarship recipients stats have been. I can’t seem to find any information of past recipients elsewhere, so if you or a family member have been awarded a type 1 scholarship please post your stats.

    Also, I am curious to see if I am competitive for a type 1 scholarship.

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    Thanks for all the help
     
  2. Pima

    Pima 10-Year Member

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    If you search threads that have a title akin to something like AFROTC scholarships/boards are released, you will see many posters will announce what their stats are with each type they got. There of course is also the ICSP too. This is where kids are offered the scholarship at the school they interview at, ICSP is basically a type 1.

    It is important to understand a few things. Previous yrs stats are great to give you an idea, but the reality is that nobody knows this years pool, nor how many scholarships will be available. IOWS Supply and demand. A year that had a high supply of scholarships, but with a low demand will have a different avg than the year that has a low supply of scholarships, but high demand.

    Secondly, Type 1s are very rare. Only 5% of all scholarships are type 1. Unlike, SAs, the AFROTC scholarship starts on a national level. They don't care if every type 1 scholarship is awarded to kids from NJ and none come from the other 49 states. It is the top 5% nationally in the pool and that is how it goes. They don't spread the wealth that every state has a kid with a type 1.
    ~ If the amount of scholarships remain what it has been in years past, than you are talking @ 50 type 1s awarded nationally. They give @900 scholarships and the award rate is on par with the appointment rate for an SA or @18% of applicants will receive a scholarship

    Third, SAT/ACT scores are not superscored. It is your best sitting, so if 34 is your best, than that is very strong. However, if it drops to a 31 best, than you are still in the mix, but more on the avg for a type 1.

    Fourth, beware of how the scholarship works.
    ~It is what we call a 2+2. You must get selected for SFT aka LEAD as a sophomore. If not selected they can dis-enroll you from AFROTC, hence if you need the scholarship to attend that dream school, you could find yourself as a rising junior trying to figure out how to pay for your last 2 yrs.
    ~ If you get it as a type 1 tech degree, get to school and after a semester decide you hate engineering, but love AFROTC and want to switch to a non-tech, than you will need HQ AFROTC's approval to keep the scholarship. That is typically rare since @80-85% of all scholarships go tech.
    ~ If you need the scholarship to attend that dream school and get the type 1, love the school, but now hate AFROTC you are allowed that escape clause for the 1st yr., but that brings you back to what I stated above...how do you pay for the next 3 years?

    Trust me if you use the search button you will see multiple threads year after year that involve all three of those scenarios.

    I hope this helps. There are multiple sayings around here that apply to you and every candidate.
    A. You have 0% chance if you don't apply
    B. This is a marathon, it could be next March before you find out.
    C. Get your medical records in order NOW.
    ~~ There are any kids that are athletic and were prescribed an inhaler by a doc after the age of 13 although they showed no signs of asthma, but from a DoDMERB perspective that is an issue. Just like candidates saying I have a nut allergy, but never needed to use an epi. Or kids that have vision issues. Or kids with multiple concussions. A waiver can take months.

    My thing that I tell everyone is simple. Understand that 95% of all SA candidates will apply for ROTC scholarships as plan B, however the reverse is not true for ROTC candidates, 95% of them will not apply for an SA as their plan B. What typically happens with ROTC candidates is they will apply for AROTC, NROTC and AFROTC. These organizations do not talk. You may be like my DS and only want AF, but there could be other candidates that are open to all 3, plus the SAs. See above regarding only @50 nationally will be awarded.

    Sorry if that is Debbie Downer, but I believe the more you know from a bigger picture aspect, will allow you to plan accordingly.
     
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  3. brob

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    Comprehensive answer with great information!
     
  4. Waltham88

    Waltham88 New Member

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    Tank you so much for that great answer. That helped a ton. I’ll search the forums and see what I can find!
     
  5. Waltham88

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    Is it possible to get an ICSP at a school you don't interview at. In other words, should I make sure to interview at my first choice school even if I have to fly out to it? Thanks!
     
  6. Phyzix

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    ICSP is typically dependent on your performance at the detachment you decide to attend. I got one in San Diego but interviewed for my HSSP in Sacramento, so I wouldn't waste my time flying to your school just for an interview in hopes that you will get an ICSP as a backup if you don't win an HSSP.

    Edit: Forgot to say, when I mean performance at the detachment I mean PFA, commander's ranking, and most importantly GPA (Test scores will also be included in the package)
     
  7. Waltham88

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    Sorry, but I am slightly confused. So if an ICSP is based on performance at a particular detachment, it can only be gained after freshman year, correct? I am applying to college this year, so would it be possible for me to win an ISCP scholarship before actually attending a school? Sorry for all the questions, but thanks for the help!
     
  8. kinnem

    kinnem Moderator 5-Year Member

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    ^^^ He's simply pointing out that he got an ICSP at a different college than the one where he was interviewed. I believe one can be awarded an ICSP as early as the Spring semester of the freshman year based on the Fall semester's performance. In any case they need to see some performance before it is awarded. Given that, you cannot be awarded an ICSP prior to attending college.
     
  9. mintyicedtea

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    Waltham, it's easy to get confused because there's more than one program.
    ICSP is the In-College Scholarship Program which is open to college freshmen and sophomores (in other words, they apply after they are already in college).
    HSSP is the High School Scholarship Program (type 1, type 2, type 7) which is open to high school seniors.

    If you are looking to earn a scholarship before entering college, you'll want to apply for the HSSP.
    https://www.afrotc.com/scholarships

    Here's the page that has some info on stats of previous winners (but keep in mind stats are not the only determining factor):
    https://www.afrotc.com/scholarships/eligibility

    If you don't win a high school scholarship (HSSP), you can join an ROTC detachment at college and then apply for the ICSP.
     
  10. Phyzix

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    ICSP is in college and yes you can get it as early as spring of freshman year, that's what I got. My first semester I got a 3.8 GPA. If you get a HSSP, you can bring it to any school, it is not school tied like other branches.
     
  11. wondermom

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    My DD was a USAFA applicant who get an appointment and she also have and will use her AFROTC Scholarship type 1, yes is very competitive but if you do not apply you will never know. Good luck!