Am I going to be DQ'd for past "depression"?

[MidCakePa]

Small but important modification to @Old Navy BGO: “Integrity is what you do when you think no one is looking.” And for a while, OP seemed to be on the wrong side of this because he thinks no one will catch him.

What a lousy way to start one’s career as a commissioned officer. Are there others who’ve done it? Of course! But it says a lot about a person, and this kind of behavior — and mindset — is rarely a one-time thing.

 

[Korab]

Small but important modification to @Old Navy BGO: “Integrity is what you do when you think no one is looking.” And for a while, OP seemed to be on the wrong side of this because he thinks no one will catch him.

What a lousy way to start one’s career as a commissioned officer. Are there others who’ve done it? Of course! But it says a lot about a person, and this kind of behavior — and mindset — is rarely a one-time thing.

You can learn a lot about a person through their first 47 posts. To me, the first 47 say more than the 48th.

 

[justdoit19]

Yep I would like to believe the poster didn’t decide to just stop posting about it , and go about their original plan...and hopefully not at the urging of others who have done just that.

Karma always has a way of catching up. At some point. Eventually. Just always do the right thing. IMO, That’s what SA’s are looking for. Above everything else. Integrity. Honor. Character. That’s the stuff people are made of.

 

[Dr. Strange Love]

.
Everything has a shelf life, and this thread reached its life expectancy .... the back and forth was painful at times too.

What the OP is dealing with is Not easy stuff. And we don’t know the facts about the young man’s health and his relationships with his kin and his doctor (therapist). Every doctor patient relationship is unique.

Let them work it out. The young man has to live with his own decisions. I think he will do the right thing in the end.
.

 

[Humey]

Yep I would like to believe the poster didn’t decide to just stop posting about it , and go about their original plan...and hopefully not at the urging of others who have done just that.

Karma always has a way of catching up. At some point. Eventually. Just always do the right thing. IMO, That’s what SA’s are looking for. Above everything else. Integrity. Honor. Character. That’s the stuff people are made of.

I dont buy that. Plenty of people who do bad things and never get caught and never pay for it and plenty of good people who never do anything bad and yet life seems to kick in the butt which ever way they turn. There is plenty of people in the military both enlisted and officers who get arrested and thrown out for doing things they shouldnt do. I dont think those who attend the academies are better people than anyone else who joins. They just happen to be really smart, athletic and shown leadership abilities while in High School. In many cases, either they never got caught doing something wrong while under 18 or they never got a chance to do something wrong.

 

[justdoit19]

I dont buy that. Plenty of people who do bad things and never get caught and never pay for it and plenty of good people who never do anything bad and yet life seems to kick in the butt which ever way they turn. There is plenty of people in the military both enlisted and officers who get arrested and thrown out for doing things they shouldnt do. I dont think those who attend the academies are better people than anyone else who joins. They just happen to be really smart, athletic and shown leadership abilities while in High School. In many cases, either they never got caught doing something wrong while under 18 or they never got a chance to do something wrong.

I don’t disagree with most of that. And what I said was that the academies are looking for people with certain traits. Which doesn’t mean people at a SA are better people.

Karma does catch up. Maybe not outwardly in a way people can measure. But with time, it will. We are all results of our daily choices.

 

[Humey]

I dont buy that. Plenty of people who do bad things and never get caught and never pay for it and plenty of good people who never do anything bad and yet life seems to kick in the butt which ever way they turn. There is plenty of people in the military both enlisted and officers who get arrested and thrown out for doing things they shouldnt do. I dont think those who attend the academies are better people than anyone else who joins. They just happen to be really smart, athletic and shown leadership abilities while in High School. In many cases, either they never got caught doing something wrong while under 18 or they never got a chance to do something wrong.

I don’t disagree with most of that. And what I said was that the academies are looking for people with certain traits. Which doesn’t mean people at a SA are better people.

Karma does catch up. Maybe not outwardly in a way people can measure. But with time, it will. We are all results of our daily choices.

I agree, they are looking for certain traits. I guess my only point would be that someone who lies about about not disclosing they had a one time asthma attack at 14 isnt necessarily going to be any better or any worse than someone who is squeeky clean between 1-17 of their lives. I mean how do you explain the guys from the academy who got caught for selling drugs outside of school or better yet those who sexaully assualt the female cadets. I am not of course saying that lying is okay, but I will take the person who lies over about his year long asthma over the 100% angel who winds up attacking a female. Of course that is a bad comparision but my point is where we wind up is sometimes more important than where we start. As for karma, i still dont agree but even if there is a price, there is a price for everything we do in life. Some are easier to deal with than others.

 

[2024candidate]

When our Class of 20 Mid was diagnosed as color blind, someone suggested learning how to memorize the test. We never considered that option. We didn't think that was the right way to begin a career of honorable service. It seemed to help that his BGO and others were certain he would get a waiver, BUT . . . First, there was no way they could know if he would get a waiver. Since that year, I have become somewhat familiar with that process (more than most might know), and I can assure you, there is NO way to know.

Don't game the system. It is not who you want to be. Also, do not delay this process. Time will become your greatest enemy.

As for us, he got the waiver that January. He will tell you that he is occasionally a little sad that he cannot fly, but he had a great Plebe year with his brother as a firstie. He has LOVED his academy experience, and he's pretty damn happy with where his service selection is possibly/likely headed. Oh. One more thing. There have now been several times when his color blindness has been confirmed. The game, if he had played it, would have been up at some point -- no later than I-Day.

This is really good to know. Thanks! Although my psychologist has submitted the necessary insurance code (despite not believing I have the condition), there is no way for the review board to see the insurance records and he will say I am completely fine and have been for a long time.

And I don't really think long and hard about my posts on here... it's a stream of consciousness and I was considering the possibility of not disclosing it (everyone has considered the possibility if they're being honest).. I slept on it and I realized what a terrible idea that would be for my service career and also the likelihood of getting "caught" down the road is pretty high. Appreciate all the advice I've gotten.

 

[usna1985]

Although my psychologist has submitted the necessary insurance code (despite not believing I have the condition),

Not to hijack this thread, but -- assuming the above is true (and recognizing we don't have all of the facts) I find this a sad and disturbing comment -- about the psychologist, not the poster. Talk about lacking integrity . . .

 

[2024candidate]

Although my psychologist has submitted the necessary insurance code (despite not believing I have the condition),

Not to hijack this thread, but -- assuming the above is true (and recognizing we don't have all of the facts) I find this a sad and disturbing comment -- about the psychologist, not the poster. Talk about lacking integrity . . .

I know. He is such a nice guy and he's been very helpful to me.. he went above and beyond what he had to do when I was struggling so much back then. I'm meeting with him in a few days and will clear this all up with him. I have an email from him saying he doesn't believe I have this condition any more (if it came to that), but that would be insurance fraud. Hopefully it won't come to that.