Any Smaller States?

RickD_USAF

RickD_USAF

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There has been a lot of Nominations/LOA's/Appointments coming out of the larger states. Just curious if anyone has posted about Nominations/LOA's/Appointments coming from the smaller states (i.e. Rhode Island, Delaware, etc.).
 
We are in NH, all nominations complete and notified. My DS received a nomination from Shaheen, Guinta , and also has a presidential. Just got the letter saying he is 3Q. Now we wait.
 
sandiego95 said:
We are in NH, all nominations complete and notified. My DS received a nomination from Shaheen, Guinta , and also has a presidential. Just got the letter saying he is 3Q. Now we wait.
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My old stomping grounds. My DS has a triple nomination (DE) to the USAFA, we are eagerly waiting too. Good luck to your DS.
 
sandiego95 said:
We are in NH, all nominations complete and notified. My DS received a nomination from Shaheen, Guinta , and also has a presidential. Just got the letter saying he is 3Q. Now we wait.
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Hi, You mentioned your DS received a letter he was 3Q. Did this come via email, USPS, etc? Does this info also show up in their portal?
 
In NH as well, got all 3 nominations to USNA, and an appointment came not too long after, in late December (no LOA, so I'm surprised). Best of luck to everybody waiting!
 
USA-1 said:
Hi, You mentioned your DS received a letter he was 3Q. Did this come via email, USPS, etc? Does this info also show up in their portal?
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It was on the portal, no written note in the mail . I am not sure if they follow it up with a mailed copy or not. It was dated 1/9/17.

Seems like USNA is much ahead of USMA in terms of time frames for appointments. I wonder what this means for applicants that have applied to both, how much time do you have to accept? My DS only applied to USMA, but I ma wondering how many of the 3Q kids with nominations get pulled to a different academy?
 
I'm from SD and I received 3 nominations to USMA and 3 nominations to USNA. Also received a 3Q letter in my portal.
 
sandiego95 said:
It was on the portal, no written note in the mail . I am not sure if they follow it up with a mailed copy or not. It was dated 1/9/17.

Seems like USNA is much ahead of USMA in terms of time frames for appointments. I wonder what this means for applicants that have applied to both, how much time do you have to accept? My DS only applied to USMA, but I ma wondering how many of the 3Q kids with nominations get pulled to a different academy?
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I do believe acceptances are due by 1 MAY 17.
 
2022GradDad said:
Maine, received three noms (two S, one C) recieved appt to NAPS mid December.
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Sincere question here: academy nominations are highly sought after. Senators have to select the top ten applicants from their state. Your daughter got all three nominations. That's impressive.

But, her grades did not merit an appointment to the academy, but instead to prep school. How does this happen? Why would senators select someone whose grades did not qualify over all the kids in Maine that would have been academically qualified for direct admission?

Just wondering.
 
Maplerock said:
Sincere question here: academy nominations are highly sought after. Senators have to select the top ten applicants from their state. Your daughter got all three nominations. That's impressive.

But, her grades did not merit an appointment to the academy, but instead to prep school. How does this happen? Why would senators select someone whose grades did not qualify over all the kids in Maine that would have been academically qualified for direct admission?

Just wondering.
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Perhaps there weren't many applicants or perhaps that she was way more well rounded than the others who only scored well on academics? It's the whole person concept. I'm sure she's a solid candidate and well suited for a future appointment, I am sure of that or they wouldn't have triple nominated her. I'm not sure how competitive Maine is compared to other areas, but as we all know a lot to comes down to where you live too. I wish her the best and it is a huge accomplishment.
 
Anna is incredibly well rounded. 4.0 GPA, 3 letter athlete all four years, in every girls state/ honors society etc etc....Her Achilles heel was her only slightly above average SAT and ACT scores. That combined with perhaps a less competitive locale may have secured her that appointment. That being said, I counted 20-30 other interviewees on the day we had the nomination interviews. It's all educated guesswork really.
 
We live in Vermont. My DD received an offer of appointment from USMA on January 25, and last week won an AROTC four year scholarship.

Decision time for her.

Good luck to all !
 
Except for sm3316, most don't know what a "SMALL STATE" is. When it comes to the academies; physical size doesn't mean anything. It's all about population. Population dictates how many congressmen/women you have. This dictates how many districts, slates, and nominations from each state there will be. Population will also dictate competition. Some say the smaller populated states are easier to receive an appointment. This isn't necessarily true. In a state like Wyoming, (LEAST POPULATED State in the Country). There is only 1 congresswoman, which means only 1 slate of nominees, which means ALL of the state's applicants are YOUR competition. In larger states, you may only have 3,4,5 or so on your nomination list that you're really competing against. In a state with only 1 nomination list, you're probably competing with all of the other 9 individuals. They ALL have great gpa's, ACT/SAT, etc. And if you aren't the lucky one to get the appointment from that nomination slate, and you move forward to the national pool, everyone is on the same playing field then.
 
Christcorp said:
Except for sm3316, most don't know what a "SMALL STATE" is. When it comes to the academies; physical size doesn't mean anything. It's all about population. Population dictates how many congressmen/women you have. This dictates how many districts, slates, and nominations from each state there will be. Population will also dictate competition. Some say the smaller populated states are easier to receive an appointment. This isn't necessarily true. In a state like Wyoming, (LEAST POPULATED State in the Country). There is only 1 congresswoman, which means only 1 slate of nominees, which means ALL of the state's applicants are YOUR competition. In larger states, you may only have 3,4,5 or so on your nomination list that you're really competing against. In a state with only 1 nomination list, you're probably competing with all of the other 9 individuals. They ALL have great gpa's, ACT/SAT, etc. And if you aren't the lucky one to get the appointment from that nomination slate, and you move forward to the national pool, everyone is on the same playing field then.
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With all due respect, I believe your argument is a little flawed. As this link shows, http://www.census.gov/2010census/data/apportionment-data-text.php , the average amount of people per congressional representative runs at about 700k nationally, meanwhile a state like Wyoming has only about 600k for their one representative. While there may be some discrepancies, unless the applicants in Wyoming are inherently superior to their national counterparts, it would be safe to assume each congressional district provides around the same competitiveness. Then you factor in senators. If, as you say, Wyoming typically produces 9 or 10 strong applicants, this means every year at least 3 of them (~30%) will always receive appointments. Then take another state, like Iowa for example. Say we produce those 9 to 10 strong applicant in each of our 4 districts, this would make 36-40 strong candidates statewide. With our senators and representatives, we only have 6 guaranteed spots in the typical year giving us about a 16% appointment rate directly from nominations. Your odds would be even worse when you begin looking at the very large states like California and Texas. Oh, and I would classify DE, ME, NH, RI, and VT as small. Those states all have only one or two representatives which your average American would say constitutes a "SMALL STATE".
 
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