I'm so mad right now that I can't see straight. Can anyone tell me what the PFT standards are for males right now?? My son is a 4 year winner and just failed this morning. I was on his ass all summer to get ready and he kept blowing me off that he would be "fine". Yeah, not so much. What happens now??
APFT scores / scholarship
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The APFT is different than the PFT.
The. APFT is required to fund the scholarship.
Here is a link to a calculator
http://apftcalculator.com
The. APFT is required to fund the scholarship.
Here is a link to a calculator
http://apftcalculator.com
Thank you. I'm trying.
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@AROTC-dad has nicely provided the standards calculator.
In terms of what happens next, his unit should be advising him of the exact consequences, the remediation plan, options and timeline to correct this, and next steps.
If he is grossly missing the mark, I'm not sure what happens. But hopefully this is just a correctable margin. (?)
My limited understanding is that his scholarship benefits (tuition, fees, book stipend, monthly stipend, and Room /board if applicable at your university) simply will not be activated yet - this activation is contingent on his passing the APFT physical fitness standards and all of that paperwork/ DODMERB etc previously filed. It's my understanding that once he passes the standard his benefits/ scholarship will be activated as long as he meets them in a specific timeframe. Specific to his situation, it's important that you and he need to understand very clearly the "when" of when he has until to fix this, and whether y'all will need to pay the tuition/ fees/ room / board fees at your school/ to the bursar office in the interim, until he is meeting the standard (or will they give you a grace period to sort this out). I would also find out the date by which you're scholarship can still be activated, this semester for it to be applied - I assume there would be a cutoff.
Not that misery always loves company, but I'll share there were a much higher number of candidates that did not pass the physical or knowledge portion (Different service branch than Army) in recent days at my DS's unit than I expected to hear about - both college programmers and scholarship winners alike. Your DS simply is not alone in not being as prepared as the standard requires. There, they are pairing those with deficiencies with a buddy to help them get this fixed, fyi. As parents we can guide but this is a good point for your DS to dig himself out of this situation - in terms of confirming I would recommend he take point on this with his unit. I'm sure it is not comfortable for him and maddening for you is fair.
Hopefully this will light a fire under your DS's ____ to get back in gear and fix this. I have no doubt he is getting some difficult call to action feedback. Keep us posted, Good luck and hopefully this will be a constructive lesson learned he will build on and get past. Thanks for sharing what's happening as this may help future/other students and their families/ support team going through this, as well.
In terms of what happens next, his unit should be advising him of the exact consequences, the remediation plan, options and timeline to correct this, and next steps.
If he is grossly missing the mark, I'm not sure what happens. But hopefully this is just a correctable margin. (?)
My limited understanding is that his scholarship benefits (tuition, fees, book stipend, monthly stipend, and Room /board if applicable at your university) simply will not be activated yet - this activation is contingent on his passing the APFT physical fitness standards and all of that paperwork/ DODMERB etc previously filed. It's my understanding that once he passes the standard his benefits/ scholarship will be activated as long as he meets them in a specific timeframe. Specific to his situation, it's important that you and he need to understand very clearly the "when" of when he has until to fix this, and whether y'all will need to pay the tuition/ fees/ room / board fees at your school/ to the bursar office in the interim, until he is meeting the standard (or will they give you a grace period to sort this out). I would also find out the date by which you're scholarship can still be activated, this semester for it to be applied - I assume there would be a cutoff.
Not that misery always loves company, but I'll share there were a much higher number of candidates that did not pass the physical or knowledge portion (Different service branch than Army) in recent days at my DS's unit than I expected to hear about - both college programmers and scholarship winners alike. Your DS simply is not alone in not being as prepared as the standard requires. There, they are pairing those with deficiencies with a buddy to help them get this fixed, fyi. As parents we can guide but this is a good point for your DS to dig himself out of this situation - in terms of confirming I would recommend he take point on this with his unit. I'm sure it is not comfortable for him and maddening for you is fair.
Hopefully this will light a fire under your DS's ____ to get back in gear and fix this. I have no doubt he is getting some difficult call to action feedback. Keep us posted, Good luck and hopefully this will be a constructive lesson learned he will build on and get past. Thanks for sharing what's happening as this may help future/other students and their families/ support team going through this, as well.
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Your son should use the calculator to determine how far off passing he was in each non-passing category. Once done, he should concentrate on improving that issue while also practicing the whole test in sequence.
Be careful about form. Many of my son's battalion peers arrived thinking all was good only to find out that their form was poor and many reps not allowed.
If the run is the problem, try interval training.
Finally, you may need to find alternative funding for the fall semester if he is not meet his deadline and the scholarship is held back.
Have him speak to his chain of command to determine how much time he has.
Good luck.
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Be careful about form. Many of my son's battalion peers arrived thinking all was good only to find out that their form was poor and many reps not allowed.
If the run is the problem, try interval training.
Finally, you may need to find alternative funding for the fall semester if he is not meet his deadline and the scholarship is held back.
Have him speak to his chain of command to determine how much time he has.
Good luck.
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Well, if it's form, which is what I guessed, it should be fairly easily fixed. Far better than dealing with a fitness issue.
Being a parent you will probably go through these, "What the heck!" issues several more times. I sure did. Sometimes I wonder why and how the commissioned my son as officer, but his colleagues all sing his praises to the heavens. We see all the warts, having known the warts for years and years. Patience. They learn how do deal with setbacks and roadblocks, making corrections to remedy them and learning life lessons along the way..
Being a parent you will probably go through these, "What the heck!" issues several more times. I sure did. Sometimes I wonder why and how the commissioned my son as officer, but his colleagues all sing his praises to the heavens. We see all the warts, having known the warts for years and years. Patience. They learn how do deal with setbacks and roadblocks, making corrections to remedy them and learning life lessons along the way..
Form on sit-ups should be the easiest of any deficiency to fix. I bet he kills it next time around. They were probably sending everyone a message that this isn't playtime anymore, knowing full well that most of the deficiencies are easily fixed in short order and won't mess with their $$.
That's what his dad said, too. Still. Ugh.
I'm about to echo what many have already said so well.
While it is frustrating it is not all that uncommon for a new cadet to fail their first APFT. Most of the time it is because of form. New scholarship winners will often work out the summer before, they don't have the benefit of having someone checking their form to Army standards so they get into a PU and SU routine that they feel is working well. So often these new cadets show up confident they will pass only to have a few of their PU and SU not count. Since this was a form issue and they simply did not count some of his sit ups, he should be able to correct that form over the next couple weeks of doing them properly.
He is not the first and sure won't be the last to have this happen, a little extra work on it and he should be fine.
While it is frustrating it is not all that uncommon for a new cadet to fail their first APFT. Most of the time it is because of form. New scholarship winners will often work out the summer before, they don't have the benefit of having someone checking their form to Army standards so they get into a PU and SU routine that they feel is working well. So often these new cadets show up confident they will pass only to have a few of their PU and SU not count. Since this was a form issue and they simply did not count some of his sit ups, he should be able to correct that form over the next couple weeks of doing them properly.
He is not the first and sure won't be the last to have this happen, a little extra work on it and he should be fine.
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It will mess with the stipend $. He won't receive stipend until contracted and it is not back paid. So does that equal $200 for 8 situps if he contracts two weeks late for current cadets? My child did the same nine years ago and it was a great lesson regarding lifetime fitness rather than intermittent fitness.