does anyone have any idea or stats on the most successful prep school regarding unsponsored candidates?
The one thing the right prep school offers is the military lifestyle and a great support system. If your kid goes off to college there are many distractions and the focus may not be what it needs to be. Also, if your kid goes to a military prep school and decides the military lifestyle is not for him or her, he or she can pivot into another track with no harm no foul. One of the things that is great about Greystone Prep is that it is affiliated with a four-year university but is its own oasis and support system within. Your kid will get college hours if he or she needs to use them later.My two cents, a good college, retaking SAT/ACT, good grades, and ROTC are better than any prep school. Prep schools have their strengths and weaknesses, so depends on your weakness Prep school alone might not increase your chances. Some prep schools advertise their success rate, but we don‘t know for sure how much attending the Prep school helped. Perhaps, your grade might be better at a Prep school as you might not be partying too much. Perhaps, a Prep school might have a program to improve your SAT/ACT.
Looking forward to hearing more about the exciting news!My attends MMI as an unsponsored cadet as well and it has been excellent experience. MMI is a junior college in the Alabama college system so it's accredited and credits are transferrable. The college also has ROTC programs for Army and Air Force so a cadet may participate in those as well. The program is what a cadet makes of it but it can help improve your deficiencies as well as your overall application. I will also say that it give a cadet a "Happy Meal" taste of what military life will resemble. One sponsored cadet voluntarily left the program this year because they realized military life is not for them. No shame in that decision and best to determine early one.
We are in waiting mode; however, our son called last night with some exciting news.
Based on other published information there are approximately 120 cadets in MMI's SAP program, with approximately 55 sponsored and 65 self sponsored. You just have to look around to get the data. I don't think MMI is attempting to try to fool or mislead anyone. Giving percentages of success leads to conclusions that appointments are some sort of game or lottery, or that MMI is making guarantees for appointments. Each applicant stands on his/her own application. MMI can provide them the tools to succeed but it can't guarantee that success. And it can't imply that it does.I had not remember seeing self-prep stats and just googled Marion. It seems they are just showing appointments and not the actual yield. As a data nerd in my real job, this chart tells me absolutely nothing I need to make a determination on Marion's performance. Metrics should be designed to measure some performance and telling me you had 37 success without anything to normalize it against is meaningless. As others have said, Plan B depends on the candidate. For every self-prep that was successful, I am sure that their are just as many who were not. We could also show the same for college re-applicants. PSA: I do not have any ill will for the prep schools and am pretty sure they do a good job preparing candidates. I just do not like when anyone attempts to use incomplete data to justify performance.
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i know this current academic year the program has the most unsponsored cadets in school history per the head of the SAP program.Based on other published information there are approximately 120 cadets in MMI's SAP program, with approximately 55 sponsored and 65 self sponsored. You just have to look around to get the data. I don't think MMI is attempting to try to fool or mislead anyone. Giving percentages of success leads to conclusions that appointments are some sort of game or lottery, or that MMI is making guarantees for appointments. Each applicant stands on his/her own application. MMI can provide them the tools to succeed but it can't guarantee that success. And it can't imply that it does.
Based on other published information there are approximately 120 cadets in MMI's SAP program, with approximately 55 sponsored and 65 self sponsored. You just have to look around to get the data. I don't think MMI is attempting to try to fool or mislead anyone. Giving percentages of success leads to conclusions that appointments are some sort of game or lottery, or that MMI is making guarantees for appointments. Each applicant stands on his/her own application. MMI can provide them the tools to succeed but it can't guarantee that success. And it can't imply that it does.
I got Into v-tech and am waiting on A&M waitlist, so I’m just worried about large class sizes and lack of test prepTo further illustrate this, let's look at USCGA simply because the data is easy to find:
For the class of 2021 - they had 294 students.
of these students, the school PAID for 53 (18%) to attend either MMI or GMC
and they report an additional 26 students did some other form of self prep at a college. Based on the table above, at least 5 of this figure went through MMI for self prep. GMC indicated that their first USCGA self-prep success came in 2018, so it would not have been this class.
So, if we generous with the math, and assume that the reported figure of 1+ yrs of prior college in the class excludes the paid prep scholars program.... we assume there were 79 students of which 58 are known to have gone to military prep programs. The figure is likely higher because there is only reported data on MMI and not the other prep programs. Statistically speaking.... would you say your best chance for success is to attend a 4- year program?
Just thinking out loud here... Through their own actions, how do the 5 Service Academies choose to prepare students who are deemed not quite ready to enter directly? Do they pay to send them to a 4 year school and take a challenging plebe-like schedule?
I think you are making a number of assumptions, the first being the only difference between a sponsored prep and an appointed cadet is the absence of an available slot. That is much different than what my DS was told by admissions. He was informed that both types of prep have deficiencies and both have to fix those deficiencies to take advantage of their golden tickets. While the hurdle may not be high, it’s not just a walk in the park.Your assumption here is incorrect. The sponsored prep students are fully qualified and admissions thinks they are ready but they do not have a space to slot them in the current class. I would assume that it is easier and less expensive to stash these 50 applicants each year in a few of these private prep schools than to figure out how to do anything else. If they are not ready to enter directly, they are either rejected or sent to the Academy Prep school.