Date exam reviewed?

USMAcand9821

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I will give a short statement of my story and the order of events. September- West Point file complete and initial physical exam. November-remedial for history of shoulder instability/dislocation. December-disqualification. January 5th- nomination received. January 6th-waiver requested. THIS is where it gets fuzzy. January 10th- additional records and supporting documentation sent to DoDMERB. On January 21st, I received a notice on the DoDMERB site which said "Date Exam Reviewed", with no remedial or DQ codes. On February 1st I learned that West Point approved my waiver for the DQ shoulder condition. However, I had childhood Asthma (at least diagnosed as such) and put it in my DoDMETS file in September, stating, in full honesty, that I have not had any problems since 2006 (age 8). I am NOT asking whether or not they will ask for remedials or DQ me. I am asking, to anyone with a somewhat similar situation or having a similar experience, if they completed the review of my file on that January 21st date, or if they were acknowledging the fact that they received my shoulder documentation. To my knowledge, DoDMERB continues the reviewing of a candidate's file after a waiver has been requested by the SA. I know every case is different. But does anyone have an experience where they could share how long it took for DoDMERB to finish reviewing their file? This may also be a bad time to ask questions due to slowness from the renovating at DoDMERB, but I am extremely eager (and growing anxious) to get this process over with. ESPECIALLY before that April date. Thank all you hopefully future answerers and I hope to be at USMA come July!
 

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My son had shoulder surgery in August of 2016 and had a very short history of inhaler use when he was 8. Both of those remedials came at the same time. He had to do a spirometry study and submit surgical records. USMA waived the shoulder in October and Navy just recently waived the shoulder. He passed the spirometry study and the remedial was never a DQ. It is difficult to know what's going on now with DODMERB down.

He portal stalked for awhile and finally called his technician who is awesome BTW. They never received his email with his 30 pages of medical from the surgery and he finally sent the records USPS. Check with the tech to verify if the records were received. He was appointed 1/20/17 to USMA but has not received one from Navy as of yet.

Keep positive and proactive! :jump1:
 

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The records on the shoulder were received, because I was granted the waiver from USMA about two weeks after. I'm just wondering whether or not they input it into their system as "reviewing" when in fact they are just acknowledging receipt of records. I'm just hoping they don't bring up that childhood asthma. It hasn't come up at all yet, and those are the only two things in my medical holding me back to my knowledge. Even though every case is different, from what it looks like I'm gonna have remedials of some sort. I just hope I have the opportunity to get cleared in time.
I've even gone so far as to go back to my file on DoDMETS to see which problem appears first in the file (yes I know I'm probably looking WAYYY too much into it, but most of you know how stressful it is). This provides some hope, as the mention of childhood asthma appears before the mention of my Labral tear, so hopefully they review the file in the order it is arranged in DoDMETS. But I'm not gonna ease up until my candidate portal switches to qualified. I'm hoping I'll find out either Monday or Tuesday when DoDMERB completes their renovating (but we can only hope...).
Thanks for the response! Very similar situations. And I'll keep updated for the sake of other's on whether I need remedials.
 

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My son's portal reads as a novel. Lots of reviews and then remedial request sent as his surgery was 8/3 and he was cleared with no restrictions in November. He took his exam 2 days before the surgery so it was a DQ from the beginning.

Good for the records being there. That's 1/2 the battle.
 

USMAcand9821

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UPDATE to all viewers: my exam has been reviewed three times since I got my waiver. Today, I received notification on DoDMERB that my granted waiver has been processed. No remedial codes on DoDMERB. I called my technician, and asked if there were any codes that I couldn't see and she said, "no. You are finished with the medical process on our end." I'm pretty sure I quadruple checked with her to see if I was ACTUALLY done and she said, "I don't know how more clear I can be, sir. You are done." I'm pretty sure I started laughing. I'm not gonna relax until I see that qualified status in my WP portal, but I'm almost there. The only possibility of a problem I see is the chance that the remedial codes don't show up (not even for my technician) until they send a letter. Hoping this isn't the case, but I'm getting records ready and a spirometry done Friday just in case. I have to beat this deadline if it comes up.

Thanks for the help and encouragement! I think my blood pressure is slowly returning to normal from the extreme high it has been the past few months.
 
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The records on the shoulder were received, because I was granted the waiver from USMA about two weeks after. I'm just wondering whether or not they input it into their system as "reviewing" when in fact they are just acknowledging receipt of records. I'm just hoping they don't bring up that childhood asthma. It hasn't come up at all yet, and those are the only two things in my medical holding me back to my knowledge. Even though every case is different, from what it looks like I'm gonna have remedials of some sort. I just hope I have the opportunity to get cleared in time.
I've even gone so far as to go back to my file on DoDMETS to see which problem appears first in the file (yes I know I'm probably looking WAYYY too much into it, but most of you know how stressful it is). This provides some hope, as the mention of childhood asthma appears before the mention of my Labral tear, so hopefully they review the file in the order it is arranged in DoDMETS. But I'm not gonna ease up until my candidate portal switches to qualified. I'm hoping I'll find out either Monday or Tuesday when DoDMERB completes their renovating (but we can only hope...).
Thanks for the response! Very similar situations. And I'll keep updated for the sake of other's on whether I need remedials.
As I was reading your post, was curious: DS might run into issue with shoulder bc it dislocates some times. Did you have to have surgery, so that why it was waived? DS has worked so hard to get so far and would be applying next year, so if he needs to do something for waiver rather know that info now. Any guidance from your experience would be helpful. Ty.
 

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I had ONE CLOSED dislocation of my shoulder with extensive posterior labral (I think?) tearing and slight tearing of something else. That happened in 2014 at a soccer game. No surgery, but after a few months of PT I didn't have any pain. No recurrent dislocation. Remedial in November, disqualification in December, waiver request in January, waiver February 1st. All cases are different, and no medical advice can be made on here. I can, however, stress the importance of getting stuff done EARLY. My case was easy because of no recurrent dislocation and no sports restrictions and we got as much supporting documents as possible. Any dislocation/instability/subluxation is an automatic DQ though so just have stuff ready.
 
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I had ONE CLOSED dislocation of my shoulder with extensive posterior labral (I think?) tearing and slight tearing of something else. That happened in 2014 at a soccer game. No surgery, but after a few months of PT I didn't have any pain. No recurrent dislocation. Remedial in November, disqualification in December, waiver request in January, waiver February 1st. All cases are different, and no medical advice can be made on here. I can, however, stress the importance of getting stuff done EARLY. My case was easy because of no recurrent dislocation and no sports restrictions and we got as much supporting documents as possible. Any dislocation/instability/subluxation is an automatic DQ though so just have stuff ready.
Ty USMAcand9821! If DS needed surgery to fix is this an automatic DQ? Not sure of MRI results but if there was a good time to schedule surgery, trying to maybe give that a good look. Silly question, what does "remedial" mean?
 
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My son had shoulder surgery in August of 2016 and had a very short history of inhaler use when he was 8. Both of those remedials came at the same time. He had to do a spirometry study and submit surgical records. USMA waived the shoulder in October and Navy just recently waived the shoulder. He passed the spirometry study and the remedial was never a DQ. It is difficult to know what's going on now with DODMERB down.

He portal stalked for awhile and finally called his technician who is awesome BTW. They never received his email with his 30 pages of medical from the surgery and he finally sent the records USPS. Check with the tech to verify if the records were received. He was appointed 1/20/17 to USMA but has not received one from Navy as of yet.

Keep positive and proactive! :jump1:
Love4monsters congrats to DS! So he had surgery in Aug 2016 and was still appointed Jan 2017? Did DS get DQ due to surgery right away and then he had to follow up to get waivers? I found you post very similar so I'm trying to pay close attention and learn from your process:)
 

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My son has shoulder surgery for a torn labrum and other issues on 8/3. Received a waiver in 10/16 from USMA and from USNA in 2/17. 6 month waiting period typically for any surgery. The waiver from USMA was a gift getting it so early and honestly the waiver from USNA was a shock as he also needed a color deficiency waiver. I will PM when you reach 10 posts. Son has had a great result and doesn't regret it but honestly had no choice.
 
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My son has shoulder surgery for a torn labrum and other issues on 8/3. Received a waiver in 10/16 from USMA and from USNA in 2/17. 6 month waiting period typically for any surgery. The waiver from USMA was a gift getting it so early and honestly the waiver from USNA was a shock as he also needed a color deficiency waiver. I will PM when you reach 10 posts. Son has had a great result and doesn't regret it but honestly had no choice.
Ty! Look for yo hearing from you:)
 

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Yes - had the surgery on 8/3 - had his DODMERB on 8/1 and we knew it was an auto DQ. Had his waiver from USMA 2.5 months later but Navy waited almost the whole 6 months. Had to submit 30 pages of medical records. He chose to forgo his senior year of football to have a better waiver chance. We should have made him go to the ortho in early June when he returned from SLE but it honestly wasn't painful. Took him late July as it would pop at times when catching a pass. He was appointed in the first wave. Very high ACT, tons of sports and EC's so he had an attractive file. The importance of the ACT or SAT to make yourself stand out cannot be stressed enough but they have to have it all. He had some luck too! [emoji41]
 

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Ty USMAcand9821! If DS needed surgery to fix is this an automatic DQ? Not sure of MRI results but if there was a good time to schedule surgery, trying to maybe give that a good look. Silly question, what does "remedial" mean?
To my knowledge it is possible to get a waiver after surgery. And a remedial is any additional requested info or tests so they can come to the correct decision.
 

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Typically any type of surgery (not including dental) DQs for 6 months.
My son was waiting for a shoulder waiver, had his appendix out.
The shoulder waiver was put on hold until the 6 months was up.
Then remedial for both (all the shoulder information again plus some more stuff)
Total time from first DQ to waiver(s) granted 9 months.
The key seems to be letters from both Surgeons that said " cleared for unrestricted activities"
His was for AROTC. The SAs seems to move much faster.
His time line was;
  • Feb 3yr scholarship awarded
  • March DoDMERB exam
  • Mar shoulder, concussion remedials
  • March concussion cleared
  • March shoulder DQ
  • April shoulder waiver requested
  • April Appendix surgery
  • Nov shoulder, appendix remedials
  • Dec waiver(s) granted
The take away; do your exam ASAP, do whatever DoDMERB asks, don't send information they have not asked for without first asking your DoDMERB tech if you "should". If they tell you you can email information and do not get a reply after you send, follow up. Each tech is dealing with thousands of applicants/scholarship winners.
 
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