Disenrollment rate

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I have heard everywhere that many do not make it through the Merchannt Marine Academy academically. The graduation rate is around 70%. I hear some classes start with 280 and end with 190. Is there less sympathy for success here unlike the other service academies?
 
I still remember assembling on Barney Square at day 1 of INDOC. The RC told us to look to the person on our left and right ... one of us won't be here for graduation. It was true. It isn't always academics. Some kids are not ready to go to sea for a year, some don't complete their sea projects (and USMMA does not tolerate not completing sea projects), and yes, the academics can be intense and if you enter the academy without knowing "how to study" it will be a challenge. I think this final point is true at any of the SA's
 
I have heard everywhere that many do not make it through the Merchannt Marine Academy academically. The graduation rate is around 70%. I hear some classes start with 280 and end with 190. Is there less sympathy for success here unlike the other service academies?
If you look at graduation rate for all of the service academies you will find that USMMA is the lowest by far.
 
USMMA handles academic probation slightly differently than other SA. It is not uncommon for a student to be rolled back into a later class. The trimester system has unique challenges and you typically see first year students struggle with Calculus, Chemistry, and or Physics. When you overlay this nuance with ~12 months at sea, there are unique challenges at USMMA that make class year more fluid than one might think if only living under the context of a 4 year school. The class of 2024 saw a record number of academic setbacks following the first trimester this academic year. Those students were sent home and are invited to work on the deficient classes at a school of their choosing, but the curriculum needs to be approved by USMMA. If a satisfactory grade is achieved, they are invited to join the class of 2025. The DOD Service Academies would generally place a student on academic probation, but allow the student to remain on campus and potentially make up the course(s) at a later time - i.e. summer school. There are many variables to this that would decide a students outcome of stay (probation), roll back, or disenroll completely.

Academic rollback does not happen at a DoD school to my knowledge -- I have seen medical rollback because the student could not complete courses. I say that, but a gymnast classmate of mine broke his neck and was in a halo for weeks and we rolled his wheelchair to class and kept on truckin.....

Interestingly, each Service Academy has a program by which a student can take a leave of absence. This may be for a Mormon Mission, a dying parent, or other personal matter that would require a student to leave the school and return in the future. COVID is having a large impact on USMMA right now, and the 3 Star Superintendent reminded parents that a USMMA "Compassion Setback" is available to any student who is unhappy with the situation on campus and would prefer to take a leave of absence and return next year.

Bottom line - setbacks are fairly normal at USMMA. I would not say they are common, but they do happen. As I type this, the students are completing the second academic trimester and there are roughly 6 plebes that are likely to be asked to roll back into 2025. This follows an unprecedented ~18 that were set back after first tri.

Under a normal academic year, where everyone is attending face-to-face classes, they have never struggled this much. The Academic Center for Excellence (ACE) is where students go for additional instruction (tutoring). The ACE services have been available to the class of 2024 but there have been limitations as the campus has dealt with various surges in COVID related activity.

As a prospective student, understand these key points:
1) The staff at a Service Academy is focused on your success and you are not a paycheck for them like one might be at a public institution.
2) There are multiple tutoring resources available to students
3) Service Academy faculty are historically rated tops in the nation for accessibility to students
4) Class sizes will look far closer to your high school than a large public college with hundreds in freshman classes
5) There are mechanisms in place to help you succeed should you engage early and seek them out
 
As a 2/C, DD had 2 plebes with trouble in a STEM class. She arranged for them to be tutored by "the smartest guy in the class." One plebe set it up. One plebe did not. One plebe passed. One plebe did was disenrolled. DD always made the point that there is help all around. At INDOC, the PCs were told "What got you here won't keep you here." From what I can tell, this is true for about 90%. The other 10% can pass quantum physics by osmosis.
 
With four years of coursework stuffed into three years there was very little time for making up a class if you failed. That meant an already struggling student had to overload. The fact that the classes build on each other didn't help academically struggling people either. Throw into the mix vastly different levels in the depth and quality of academic preparation among plebes. It seemed like failing a core class or two plebe year just started a coumpounding death spiral to setback or disenrollment. The good news, if you get through that and a sea term with a half decent GPA, the likelihood you finish is very high unless you commit a pretty egregious conduct offense. It isn't for everyone.
 
Throw into the mix vastly different levels in the depth and quality of academic preparation among plebes.
When it comes to this pre-enrollment preparation, are you referring to preparation exclusively via prior schooling (high school / prep) or exogenous preparation (studying before INDOC). Is it necessary to supplement my high school education with additional prep before I go to ensure I am ready for the coursework?
 
I’m talking about prior schooling. Some of your classmates will have multiple semesters of college including Calc, Physics, and Chem. Others will be seeing that material for the first time. I wouldn’t stress about it now. It will be real soon enough.
 
Just so you don't panic, I will repeat what I have written in past years. My DD did not take calculus before coming to KP and she did just fine. Lots of help is available if you need it. The key is to seek help early and often rather than sitting on an F as you go into finals and then thinking about getting help. Most people struggle with a class or two in plebe year and beyond, a first for most high-achieving mids. It will be a humbling experience to realize that you may not be as smart as you thought you were. Celebrating a C is a common occurrence in some classes.
 
The USMMA Southern States Parent Association sells Calc, Physics, Chem,and Statistics study guides if you want to get a jump start (just google them and go to their store). I am not affiliated with this group nor did my DS purchase these so I have no knowledge if they help but know some of the 2024 parents did purchase these for their DD/DS. As @kpmom2013 mentioned -there is help out there if you seek it. Whether it be a classmate, a tutor, making time to attend a study group, or help from a professor. My DS has had 4 roommates so far plebe year and I know at least 2 of his roommates had the exact or almost exact class schedule so they were able to study and work together to prepare for tests.
 
I have always considered that there are quite a few factors that influence the disenrollment/drop out rate. One is the academic intensity as mentioned above. I always did pretty well in school with little effort in studying. Everything changed at KP. It was really the first time that I was challenged by coursework.

Another factor is the regiment. Not everyone is cut out for it. I know that I was close to going home just a couple of days in to Indoc, and really struggled with the regimental system until I got my head around it after a couple of months.

As it is the Merchant Marine Academy, the demands on a merchant mariner are far greater than most professions. Sea Year can be an eye opener. If anything, it may have been a bit easier in my day when we weren't all so connected like we are now. Some ships out there don't have 24 hour internet and all. While we had no communication with home when at sea (other than the port calls), we were used to communicating my snail mail. I have to imagine that losing that kind of connectivity is tough.

Then there is the fact that many get into KP for the wrong reason.
 
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