AirForceProud
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I am currently trying to become a pilot, and I was very curious about the polygraph. By curious I mean losing my sleep. Please help
But if you come up with a fail even though you answered truthfully, what happens thenUmmm, I’d say likely yes. Several types of clearances require a polygraph and while not all pilots would necessarily be flying missions needing that clearance, it’s a fairly safe bet that some airframes and missions will require a clearance that involves a polygraph. They aren’t particularly fun, but they are nothing to lose sleep over
If for some reason you find yourself requiring a polygraph for a position in the military, or anywhere for that matter, unless its the result of a criminal investigation, the worst thing that happens is you don't get the job.But if you come up with a fail even though you answered truthfully, what happens thenUmmm, I’d say likely yes. Several types of clearances require a polygraph and while not all pilots would necessarily be flying missions needing that clearance, it’s a fairly safe bet that some airframes and missions will require a clearance that involves a polygraph. They aren’t particularly fun, but they are nothing to lose sleep over
Are you sure? I've done so much research on ts sci clearanceNo. The highest clearance needed by Air Force pilots (unless you are on special duty such as flying Air Force One, etc.) is a TS/SCI. A TS/SCI does not require a polygraph.
Yes, I have one.Are you sure? I've done so much research on ts sci clearanceNo. The highest clearance needed by Air Force pilots (unless you are on special duty such as flying Air Force One, etc.) is a TS/SCI. A TS/SCI does not require a polygraph.
In the 20+ yrs DH was ADAF as an F15E WSO, and now at the Pentagon working as a GS briefing Generals daily for fighter requirements he has never to my knowledge taken a poly. Remember TS clearances must be renewed every 5 yrs., IOWS 6 times.
My DS is an ADAF pilot, and is up for his 2nd TS clearance since he is coming up on his 5 yr marker (done during his rising sr yr in AFROTC), and he too has not done a poly.
Now, if it was me, I would think more about how the TS clearance works than the poly. The reason impo they don't need to do a poly is they can catch you way cheaper than the cost of a poly. The TS clearance requires you to fill out a questionnaire that is pages and pages long. It asks questions that are the same multiple times, but in a different way.
~ Not saying these are the questions, just giving an example of how they ask in a different way.
~~ Have you ever done illegal drugs? You answer No. A few pages later the question is have you smoked marijuana less than 3 times? You answer Yes. OOPS guess what now? Your two answers don't match up. You said no to illegal drugs, but marijuana until very recently has been illegal in every state, so now it is time to delve deeper.
Additionally, for a TS clearance they will do an in person interview with your references(no family members) that you list utilizing a fed agent to do the interview. This interview is about 30 mins. long. They will ask them questions about you personally. Do they drink, if so, do you think they have a drinking problem? Have they ever had any law enforcement issues, if so what? So on and so forth. Thus, if now your TS clearance questionnaire does not match up to your reference's interview than they will delve deeper.
~ You say no to using marijuana throughout the questionnaire, but the reference says yes they did smoke in HS, than you got caught in a lie.
Just saying, TS clearances are more complicated than you may think. Plus, they happen every 5 yrs. 5 yrs from now if your answers differ again than the red flag goes up.
~ You said on your 1st you never smoked marijuana. All goes well. 5 yrs ADAF and up for the 2nd this time you say YES. Now they have to figure out did you lie on the 1st one, or did you use marijuana since the last one.
Sorry for the novella, but I think it is important to realize a poly, whether they give it or not, is not imho the thing to be concerned with when it comes to getting a TS.