How Much Do BGO's Know?

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I know we have some current and former BGOs on here and I was wondering the extent of the BGO's knowledge of the process.

For instance, hypothetically, if a BGO said that there were three candidates left standing in the district and all the TWEs that were going out had gone out - is that something they would have direct knowledge of or is that something they are guessing based on past years' practice?
 
A BGO will know when TWE's /BFE are issued to his/her candidate. However, if there multiple BGO's within a district, he/she won't know status of other candidates unless comparing notes with the other BGO. An Area Coordinator will see status of candidates for the entire Area.

All that said, candidates should not be asking (and BGO's should not be volunteering) information regarding other candidates. BGO's are instructed not to share information about other candidates
 
BGOs don’t know much. We can see the status (appointed, WL, turndown) of our candidates, at the same time the candidate learns of it. We don’t know about other candidates and we don’t know whether or not there are still appointments available, let alone how many. We don't know when the TWEs go out and don't know when all of them have gone out. Also, BGOs are assigned by school. It's possible that a BGO's candidates may come from multiple congressional districts and multiple BGOs may cover the same district.

Your hypo suggests that the BGO might be a member of the local MOC's SA selection committee. That committee MIGHT have info on how many candidates in the DISTRICT are still waiting to hear. A BGO not involved with the MOC's committee would be very unlikely to have this info.

Finally, I would be VERY surprised if all of the TWEs had gone out this year. Possible, but not likely.
 
Thanks to both of you! This was 3rd/4th hand information we were receiving so I was taking it with a grain of salt and figured this was the place to verify what might be possible.
 
They also no nothing about a candidates medical situation. Or the status of a waiver/LOA.
 
And 100% they should not be discussing or revealing ANYthing re another applicant. That gets you bounced from the BGO program.
 
Just to be clear, as I mentioned this was 3rd or 4th hand knowledge so I don’t want it to seem like I’m accusing a BGO of doing something improper. It sounds like the information that was allegedly relayed is not even information a BGO would have any knowledge of, so I tend to doubt the whole account…
 
All TWEs have NOT gone out. Direct info from 5 minutes ago from admissions. Having said that, there are still appointments, NAPS, foundations, waitlist and TWEs remaining. MOST people will know by April 15. They are meeting several times this week. All of that is straight from the horse’s mouth (admissions office via phone just now).
 
usna1985 said:
BGOs don’t know much. We can see the status (appointed, WL, turndown) of our candidates, at the same time the candidate learns of it. We don’t know about other candidates and we don’t know whether or not there are still appointments available, let alone how many. We don't know when the TWEs go out and don't know when all of them have gone out. Also, BGOs are assigned by school. It's possible that a BGO's candidates may come from multiple congressional districts and multiple BGOs may cover the same district.

Your hypo suggests that the BGO might be a member of the local MOC's SA selection committee. That committee MIGHT have info on how many candidates in the DISTRICT are still waiting to hear. A BGO not involved with the MOC's committee would be very unlikely to have this info.

Finally, I would be VERY surprised if all of the TWEs had gone out this year. Possible, but not likely.
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Does a BGO see anything regarding DODMERB? Would they see if there was a medical DQ or anything regarding medical?
 
It's not always easy to find the info on the system, but BGOs know when medical is complete, and what the status is. If rejected for medical, BGOs known if and when a waiver is approved. We don't have any info about any medical details of course, just whether or not qualified.

We also know when an appointment is offered, during the congressional notification period, before the candidate is informed. The MOC has a few days to contact the candidate and congratulate them, after a few days the appointment shows up on the portal.
 
SweetCaroline said:
Does a BGO see anything regarding DODMERB?
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We can see whether complete/incomplete -- nothing regarding qualification and waivers.
The old system (2-3 years or so ago) used to give us a Q / Disqualified / Pending waiver status, but to be honest, medical status is outside of the BGO swim lane and we aren't supposed to be involved in any way, except to perhaps explain the process.
 
Old Navy BGO said:
We can see whether complete/incomplete -- nothing regarding qualification and waivers.
The old system (2-3 years or so ago) used to give us a Q / Disqualified / Pending waiver status, but to be honest, medical status is outside of the BGO swim lane and we aren't supposed to be involved in any way, except to perhaps explain the process.
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Hmmm... your response contradicts A6E Dad.
 
A6E Dad said:
It's not always easy to find the info on the system, but BGOs know when medical is complete, and what the status is. If rejected for medical, BGOs known if and when a waiver is approved. We don't have any info about any medical details of course, just whether or not qualified.

We also know when an appointment is offered, during the congressional notification period, before the candidate is informed. The MOC has a few days to contact the candidate and congratulate them, after a few days the appointment shows up on the portal.
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Hmmm... your response contradicts Old Navy BGO
 
SweetCaroline said:
Hmmm... your response contradicts Old Navy BGO
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We posted near simultaneously... and essentially say the same thing.

I am aware there are BGO's who have have a lot more technical skills and are able to discern more information from the Sales Force based BGIS system than is readily available in the general display. That said, I am the first to admit that I'm not a tech type, and don't have the time or inclination to dig deep into Salesforce to find information that I don't need to do my job.

The bottom line, we aren't supposed to be involved in the medical process, don't have much information, and as a practical matter couldn't, wouldn't give Candidates anymore insight into their personal situation than they already have access to. (On the medical side, the candidates will have more information than we do).
 
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As a new BGO, I would say for sure, that the most I would tell a candidate is that the SAs initiate the waiver process IF they choose to. Not DODMERB. I would also advise them to be honest and complete the medical application with an adult. And to make sure that you only check 'yes' if you were diagnosed by a medical doctor, not your gramma or aunt.



I would avoid all medical conversations beyond that. Out of my wheelhouse.
 
the point is, we don't see anything that the candidate doesn't see.

if medical is complete, candidate knows. if medical is rejected (dq) candidate knows, and if a waiver is granted, candidate knows at the same time the info is available to us.

the only time we get advance notice is when an appointment is forthcoming, but pending MOC notification.
 
Heatherg21 said:
As a new BGO, I would say for sure, that the most I would tell a candidate is that the SAs initiate the waiver process IF they choose to. Not DODMERB. I would also advise them to be honest and complete the medical application with an adult. And to make sure that you only check 'yes' if you were diagnosed by a medical doctor, not your gramma or aunt.



I would avoid all medical conversations beyond that. Out of my wheelhouse.
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Does the Naval Academy or DODMERBS initiate AMIs?
 
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