List 1 College with in State tuition? NROTC/ AFROTC

wondermom

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Hi, please answer if you are 100% sure, because the more I read the more I'm confused.
In the upcoming applications for NROTC and AFROTC, I know my DD will need to list 5 Colleges of her choice, that is fine, but also said 1 of them need to be with in State tuition.
Question is this, she will pick a College with a language program very rare, and our in State Colleges, no one have the language she will choose for her application, so how this will work?, this she need to:
-find another State College (in another State),with that program? or
-she should not list any State College, because the ones in our State do not have that program?
Thank you!
 

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Hi, please answer if you are 100% sure, because the more I read the more I'm confused.
In the upcoming applications for NROTC and AFROTC, I know my DD will need to list 5 Colleges of her choice, that is fine, but also said 1 of them need to be with in State tuition.
Question is this, she will pick a College with a language program very rare, and our in State Colleges, no one have the language she will choose for her application, so how this will work?, this she need to:
-find another State College (in another State),with that program? or
-she should not list any State College, because the ones in our State do not have that program?
Thank you!
I can't imagine any language major not available in one of the UC, State College, or Polytechnic universities in California. What language or language program?

Don't overthink this. Just put a CA state school on the application when the time comes. If granted the scholarship she does not have to accept the scholarship to the state school.
 

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I can't imagine any language major not available in one of the UC, State College, or Polytechnic universities in California. What language or language program?

Don't overthink this. Just put a CA state school on the application when the time comes. If granted the scholarship she does not have to accept the scholarship to the state school.
This. Just pick one, then transfer the scholarship once awarded.
 

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I can't imagine any language major not available in one of the UC, State College, or Polytechnic universities in California. What language or language program?

Don't overthink this. Just put a CA state school on the application when the time comes. If granted the scholarship she does not have to accept the scholarship to the state school.

Thank you for your answer, language is Turkish, and not State Univ in our State had the full 4 years program.Just curiosity how to do you know is in CA? I didn't mention it in the post. :)
 

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Thank you for your answer, language is Turkish, and not State Univ in our State had the full 4 years program.Just curiosity how to do you know is in CA? I didn't mention it in the post. :)
You mentioned your state of residence in a previous post.
Check out UCLA Middle Eastern Studies - They allow Turkish language as part of the degree. http://nelc.ucla.edu/middle-eastern/ Turkish is sure a specific degree. There are likely other schools in the UC system that do include study of the Turkic languages. Make sure your daughter understands the degree and language may not be used as a Jr. military officer.

http://nelc.ucla.edu/about/ "The Department offers instruction in all the major ancient and modern languages and civilizations of the Near East – classical and modern versions of Arabic, Hebrew, Persian, Turkish, Armenian, including all periods of ancient Egyptian, Akkadian, Aramaic, Old and Middle Iranian, Syriac, and a variety of Northwest Semitic languages."

Edit: UC Davis Middle East/South Asia Studies (ME/SA) including a Study Area called Turkey Studies. Have your daughter research her degree of interest more thoroughly as more UC and State Colleges likely have similar programs.

For NROTC, an applicant must list within their top 3 choices a school at which they qualify for instate tuition.
NavyNOLA - that's why wondermom is asking for suggestions as to schools that offer in state tuition to ROTC recipients. The degree of interest, Turkish Language or Studies, may not be available in their state of residence.
 
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Only College in CA with Turkish is UC Berkeley and she does not want to apply to that College.
Will figure it out. Thank you.
 

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The only school that has NROTC in CT is Yale and that is not in state tuition. Who should my DD turn to with NROTC questions?
 

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The only school that has NROTC in CT is Yale and that is not in state tuition. Who should my DD turn to with NROTC questions?

If Navy NOLA doesn't answer this, I would suggest you try this link and contact NROTC HQ and speak with the NROTC officer recruiting coordinator.
http://www.nrotc.navy.mil/locate_coordinator.html

NROTC Head Officer Recruiting Officer
5722 Integrity Drive
Building 784, Floor 1
Millington, TN 38054
PH: 901-874-9433
 

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@nola, correct me if I am wrong here, it just has to be a school that offers in state tuitionx I know where I live there are some schools that are just over the state line with a few other schools that offer in state tuition due to proximity. Does Connecticut have this with another state? Also, some of the SMCs offer in state tuition for those in the Corps (believe Texas A&M might be one of these). Would this qualify?
 

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Here are two quotes from P-Flying17. Not sure if she is still around as I haven't seen anything from her in years. Recommend you PM her or search for posts from her as she is an NROTC insider.

The following was posted by P-Flying17 back in Sept 2011.

"The best thing to do is call the NROTC Unit at the school you are interested in and ask if that school offers reciprical agreements.

Any NROTC Scholarship student is eligible for instate tuition at any public Texas School.
Texas A&M University
Texas A&M University at Galveston
University of Texas
University of Houston
Texas Southern University

There are schools that offer reciprical agreements with other states, but none to the effect that Texas does.

For instance State University of New York offers instate tuition for residents of Alabama, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, Maryland, New York, New Jersey, North Carolina, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Washington D.C., Pennsylvania, and Virginia.

Wisconsin has a reciprocal agreement with Minnesota.

Minnesota currently has one with North Dakota, South Dakota, and Wisconsin.

The Citadel offers to certain counties in Georgia. South Carolina will occassionally offer instate tuition eligible scholarships."

A more recent comment from P-Flying17:

"also any public Texas school. University of Houston, TAMU, UT, Rutgers as well. Next year, maybe Minnesota. University of South Carolina is good about giving scholarships that reduce tuition to that of instate or close to it, but would have to have that documentation before applying it to instate tuition cost."
 

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AFROTC is different from NROTC. AFROTC is tied to the cadet and their major, but not the school. There is none of the transferring the scholarship.
~ I can't recall if they required IS, but even if they did, in her case she could apply to UC, and take it to any other college that offers AFROTC.

The thing with AFROTC is they are like and unlike NROTC.
1. 80% at least go STEM.
~ This is important because she is not a STEM major.
~~ AFROTC may offer her a 4 yr type 7. That equals IS tuition. If her OOS college charges OOS tuition for ROTC than she will have to convert it to a 3 yr type 2.
2. She is going non-tech.
~ Be ready, but here it goes.
~~ 5% of all AFROTC scholarships are type 1. 5% of those 5% are non-tech. (her major). In essence, @5 kids in the nation. 15% are 4 yr type, but again only 5% of that 15%. Type 7 is where the bulk of non-techs will be awarded, but again, non-tech is the minority.
3. AFROTC does NOT superscore. NROTC does.
~ Best sitting is all they use. Her goal should be close to 1300 SAT or 29 ACT best sitting if she wants a scholarship. They will say 26 is the min., yet when you do some research you will see it is higher.
4. AFROTC is a 2+2 scholarship
~ This is incredibly important if she needs the scholarship to attend for cost reasons. As a sophomore she must be selected for their summer training. If not selected, as a non-tech her chances of staying in AFROTC are not high. Selected and she will get the final 2 yrs paid. Hence, even though it is considered 4 yrs from a HS applicant perspective, it really is not the case for AFROTC.
5. AFROTC and NROTC have one big thing in common. Your DD will serve Active Duty for at least 4 years. AROTC offers the option of Guard/Reserve, but AF/NROTC do not.
~ I know she is young, but she needs to think about this aspect. SERVICE before SELF is not a cliche, it is a reality. She may major in Turkish language, but the AF may decide that she will be a Public Affairs officer stationed at Davis Monthan. The Navy may decide she will be assigned to Norfolk.

Finally, please understand that these scholarships are highly competitive. The award rate is on keel with the appointment rate for the SAs. @18%.

My best wishes, hopes and thoughts are with your family. Remind her there is 0% chance if she does not apply! What is the worst thing that will happen, they say no?
 
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NavyNOLA

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Only College in CA with Turkish is UC Berkeley and she does not want to apply to that College.
Will figure it out. Thank you.

The desired major should be a major available at your first choice school. It doesn't have to be available at ALL five of your listed schools (and often isn't). However, an applicant DOES have to ensure that they list a school in which they are eligible to receive in-state tuition in the top three of their list. This often means listing a state school, but, as mentioned above, some other schools offer incentives. I'm sorry that your son/daughter doesn't want to attend one of their in-state schools or their desired major isn't offered there, as there are rules to applying for the scholarship. In reality though, assuming they get the scholarship, they'll likely be assigned to their first choice school anyways (or perhaps second choice if it's late in the game).
 

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@nola, correct me if I am wrong here, it just has to be a school that offers in state tuitionx I know where I live there are some schools that are just over the state line with a few other schools that offer in state tuition due to proximity. Does Connecticut have this with another state? Also, some of the SMCs offer in state tuition for those in the Corps (believe Texas A&M might be one of these). Would this qualify?

You're correct- it just has to be a school at which you qualify for in-state tuition. There are a number of schools that offer in-state tuition to recipients of ROTC scholarships, so those could be options. Generally speaking though, you simply see applicants list an public school in their home state.

Here's the applicable excerpt from the application:

"Enter college or university you wish to attend if selected for a scholarship. You must select five (5) schools and
you must indicate whether or not you qualify for in-state tuition for each of you choices. Additionally, one of your
top three choices must be a state/public institution (indicated by *) where you qualify for in-state tuition. If this is
not possible you must provide an explanation for why you cannot qualify for the in-state tuition rate at any one of
the NROTC units located at state/public schools. Do not include service academies. Indicate how strongly you
feel about attending your first choice school in the strength of preference below."
 
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