Lying at MEPS should I do it.

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Alex Litt

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Some background, I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was younger and thus have ADHD and have a prescription for but find that I don’t really need it for things other than standardized tests which is not really al that ADHD related I’m just a bad test taker. I know I have to be able to function without medication and I can, but have not been consistently been of the medication simply because of the existence of standardized tests should I lie to my recruiter and say that while I have such a prescription I have been off it for atleast the minimum time period states or should I be honest because in reality it doesn’t take a long time to get off a medication completely atleast for ADHD medications which are stimulants and what they don’t know won’t hurt them because my ADHD does not really effect me much at all anymore. What should I do.
 
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Some background, I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was younger and thus have ADHD and have a prescription for but find that I don’t really need it for things other than standardized tests which is not really al that ADHD related I’m just a bad test taker. I know I have to be able to function without medication and I can, but have not been consistently been of the medication simply because of the existence of standardized tests should I lie to my recruiter and say that while I have such a prescription I have been off it for atleast the minimum time period states or should I be honest because in reality it doesn’t take a long time to get off a medication completely atleast for ADHD medications which are stimulants and what they don’t know won’t hurt them because my ADHD does not really effect me much at all anymore. What should I do.
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Your word..... Is your bond.
 
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Looking at your previous 11 posts it looks like you might be joining the Marines. What will you do at PI or San Diego when the withdrawal symptoms hit? After boot camp is MCT where all Marines go regardless of MOS. They do that at the School of Infantry. I was at SOI-West last summer. For some reason the Pacific breeze didn’t reach that area. uuugh, it was hot. Hopefully by then you’ll be completely withdrawn from your meds.
 
Alex Litt said:
Some background, I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was younger and thus have ADHD and have a prescription for but find that I don’t really need it for things other than standardized tests which is not really al that ADHD related I’m just a bad test taker. I know I have to be able to function without medication and I can, but have not been consistently been of the medication simply because of the existence of standardized tests should I lie to my recruiter and say that while I have such a prescription I have been off it for atleast the minimum time period states or should I be honest because in reality it doesn’t take a long time to get off a medication completely atleast for ADHD medications which are stimulants and what they don’t know won’t hurt them because my ADHD does not really effect me much at all anymore. What should I do.
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ABSOLUTELY no question about it do not lie. At some point, it WILL come back and bite you. Whether accidentally, or on purpose. What if you get injured somewhere, and records are requested via insurance or doctors or surgeons, and BOOM there it is. Or mom is frantically telling DR's your health history and doesn't remember she is supposed to lie about this (Is she? Better ask her if she is down for that. And ask my kids...I would forget even if I had agreed to keep that secret of yours, which I would not in the first place BTW. And tell everyone else to lie if they are inquired of for a security assignment you get 10 years from now while you are at it.) piece and BOOM there it is. See what I mean? And the consequences of lying can be drastic. For certain, more problematic than being honest upfront.

MEPS is enlisted, right? So what you are looking at is getting off meds for the prescribed time? Then do that. Or go through MEPS and they go for a waiver. I don't know the process, but my oldest had a knee issue that wouldn't clear DODMERB for SA's, but was waived for ANG. So different standards for sure.

Don't lie. That is setting yourself up for failure.
 
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Don't lie.
You will take tests at boot camp and along the way - standardized tests are a way of life in the military
Have you lied already? Not sure where you are in the process, but would assume your Recruiter has asked about drugs/ prescriptions.
It would be better to get in front of this:

1. Notify your Recruiter
2. Managed withdraw with Doctor's guidance - often involves tapering vs cold turkey
3. Continued work outs with Poolies
4. Ship to boot camp clean and clear
 
For candidates lurking here, seeing how the post might apply to their own application, whether for SA or ROTC or OCS: If you have to ask “should I Iie,” then you already know the answer.

Not saying that every candidate or cadet or mid or commissioned officer is 100% truthful or squeaky clean or above reproach. That’s simply not true. But each of the military branches is grounded in a fundamental principle of honesty and honor — certainly more so than most other organizations. So basing your entry to that organization on a lie — one that requires you to ask about it in such a forum — is a very poor start.
 
See Article 83 UCMJ. Fraudulent Enlistment. Accidentally or on purpose are applicable. Tough but that is what it is when they find out.
 
My gramma always told me I had to be able to look at myself in the mirror, and know that if I couldn't-- I wouldn't sleep well at night. Handle this the right way, as you should all things. A slight delay in schedule will not change your end game. Lying will. Good luck to you.
 
If you can not look at yourself in the mirror in the morning it was the wrong decision. Always good advice.
 
Fraudulent Entry can get you kicked out of the military. I wouldn't recommend it (even ignoring the important integrity aspects of your question.)
 
Many relationships begin with a lie.

I had numerous patients through the years who complained of things that existed before enlistment and yes, even commissioning.
 
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