Mids told not to return

My Mid has a mandatory check in at xx time with one of his professors. A video call. Yesterday. So he did. Came up afterwards, and said “guess what mom...there were only 3 that dialed in”. All from his company. All his buddies.

Professor wasn’t happy. He scored ‘major brownie points’ to quote him.

This is going to be interesting....
 
Additional secondary and tertiary consequences - major conduct offenses may make one ineligible for graduate programs during or immediately after graduation, may cause removal from leadership positions or such a serious dink they won’t be considered for them, will definitely cause a tumble in OOM, and may cause trouble in service selection consideration down the road, in addition to the actual awarded demerits, restriction, etc. Delay of graduation can also occur. I realize that is up in the air anyway this year, but to be punitively delayed to August or December to get your degree and commission, while your classmates have gone onward, that bites deeply.

These are all administrative actions, part of the disciplinary system available to military commanding officers that stops short of courts martial under the UCMJ. If they want to make an example of him (hang ‘em high), they could take him to a Court Martial (there are a couple different flavors, with various powers) for failure to obey a lawful order and do a punitive discharge, which is the kind that sticks in your record forever. Under both paths available, administrative and punitive, the commander has the authority to recommend separation to SECNAV, the discharge authority.

Foolish, foolish, foolish to test this order in a national emergency. USNA cannot be seen to let him off lightly. There are precedent-setting and deterrence factors to consider. The big question - do you want to commission someone who has done this, who can’t be trusted to honor his oath, who knowingly and intentionally put the good of others and his unit below his own desire? Do we want to place Marines and sailors in his care? In any decision such as this, the commander looks at what the regs are, what’s best for the service, what’s best for the command, what’s best for the accused and considering his record to date/impact of action/implications for commissionability, what precedents are involved.

I’ve been using “he/his” instead of being gender-neutral, because I don’t have facts in front of me. It could just as easily be “she/her.”

During my tour of duty at USNA, I had a Batt XO, spring semester, do a major conduct thing in April. Delayed grad until August. Had to explain to fiancée and her parents why the June wedding was off. I had a 2/c detailer do a major conduct thing during PS - lost his eligibility for med school selection out of USNA, and was a sure-thing contender. Had a sports team captain do a major conduct thing, lost her captaincy. These were all administrative proceedings, with demerits, restriction, etc., but also consequences.

One of the things it is imperative to learn as a future junior officer is to practice operational risk management, to take the time to assess a situation/decisions available, evaluate for risk and impact, think through potential consequences, and have the discipline to choose wisely.
Great discussion and you've certainly been there/done that.

Now, I don't want to be too much of a fear monger but agree that USNA can't be seen to take disobeying an order from the Supe during a national emergency lightly. At an absolute minimum, I would bet that this is at least a "Class A" (black N) level offense and if it were in fact a First Class Mid, then on time graduation might certainly be on the line at this point.
 
Great discussion and you've certainly been there/done that.

Now, I don't want to be too much of a fear monger but agree that USNA can't be seen to take disobeying an order from the Supe during a national emergency lightly. At an absolute minimum, I would bet that this is at least a "Class A" (black N) level offense and if it were in fact a First Class Mid, then on time graduation might certainly be on the line at this point.
Yes - Class year is always taken into consideration. The closer you are to graduation, the less “young and boneheaded” leeway you get. Plebes and youngsters, ok, they might get re-calibrated inside and out, but get more of a break than someone expecting to put on ensign or 2LT in just a few months. Huge difference. That’s why the Dant hammered my Batt XO with the delayed grad, and why he lost his XO stripes along with it. You can’t be doing that stuff or even considering it that close to commissioning.
 
This is certainly clear enough and pulls together recent guidance. The rumor mill tells me at least one mid has defied the order and has flown home without permission. Unwise to disobey an order given in a time of declared national emergency.

I was saddened to see the news coverage of and interviews with college students at typical spring break locations, where everything seemed to reflect disregard for others’ health. I realize the press is not covering all those in that age range who are acting responsibly and quite boringly. It is not just “the old people,” but my 34 year old friend who has active lupus and two small kids, a friend in chemo therapy with a suppressed immune system, my cousin, a nurse with one kidney, kids with other health conditions, who are at greater risk. We all have a responsibility to think about what we might unknowingly be sharing or receiving and carrying onward. I like to think all the mids and cadets at SAs and ROTC units are among the hunker-down crowd.
And to add to this earlier post - I just heard the term “Plague Rats” pasted onto this generation of spring breakers, some of whom are now destined to bring a viral gift home and sprinkle it elsewhere on their travels. I have no doubt many are doing the right thing, hunkering down at home, vacuuming the refrigerator, having sibling spats and figuring out how to fill the time, but most unfairly, the right-thinking and considerate ones will get splashed by this.
 
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