nrotc questions

I have a few questions regarding NROTC applications for incoming freshmen. I will be attending a university this fall as an engineering student and have been accepted into the NROTC unit (no scholarship). That being said, I am planning on applying for the 4-year scholarship that is due in JAN2018. Firstly, I have spoken to an officer at the school I will be attending about this. However, I'm still confused as to when the best time to submit my application is - the officers at my school say it's probably best to submit it by August, in order to be awarded the scholarship (should I get it) as early as the first board meeting. However, I also contacted someone from the NROTC scholarship board and they said they're looking to see fall semester performance and ideally one college professor rec for college applicants. This would mean that my application would not be considered complete until mid-December of this year. Does anyone know how much of a disadvantage that would put me at in terms of making it in front of the board multiple times, even though it's still a month before the official deadline?

A followup question - Am I about to use my USNA CFA scores for the AFA or do I need to take it again?
 

rocatlin

5-Year Member
The scholarship actually won't be awarded until the next school year. My son started out as a college program mid and was awarded the 4 year scholarship on the early board. His circumstance was interesting in that it was a reapplication and he already had most of his from the previous year -- along with the full backing of the XO of the recruiting station walking it through the process.

The answer is -- submit it as soon as it's fully complete. Work closely with the OSO or RS rep coordinating your packet. (Don't go to the enlisted recruiter.) Communicate and follow through.

There are 2 boards for Marine Option -- a small board in late fall (November ish) and a large "full" board in the February time frame. So, reading into that, by all means if you feel confident your application is complete -- get it submitted to the early b0ard.

Make sure you enroll as a Marine Option midshipman -- and impress the MOI/AMOI.

You can read a narrative of my son's experience here:
https://www.serviceacademyforums.com/index.php?threads/nrotc-marine-option-on-stats-interviews-intangibles.46248/

He just finished the Bulldog course a few days ago. He also has a flight contract.

See the hill. Take the hill.
 
The scholarship actually won't be awarded until the next school year. My son started out as a college program mid and was awarded the 4 year scholarship on the early board. His circumstance was interesting in that it was a reapplication and he already had most of his from the previous year -- along with the full backing of the XO of the recruiting station walking it through the process.

The answer is -- submit it as soon as it's fully complete. Work closely with the OSO or RS rep coordinating your packet. (Don't go to the enlisted recruiter.) Communicate and follow through.

There are 2 boards for Marine Option -- a small board in late fall (November ish) and a large "full" board in the February time frame. So, reading into that, by all means if you feel confident your application is complete -- get it submitted to the early b0ard.

Make sure you enroll as a Marine Option midshipman -- and impress the MOI/AMOI.

You can read a narrative of my son's experience here:
https://www.serviceacademyforums.com/index.php?threads/nrotc-marine-option-on-stats-interviews-intangibles.46248/

He just finished the Bulldog course a few days ago. He also has a flight contract.

See the hill. Take the hill.
Thank you for sharing your experience and congratulations to your DS!

I am actually going in as Navy option and not Marine option.

I can have my application complete relatively soon (including interview and fitness test), meaning probably in time for the first board. However, an LT who responded to an email of mine directly to the NROTC scholarship organization said they're looking to see college performance and teacher recommendations from fall semester, to which she then said means my application would not be complete until after that semester (December of this year). I know I'm mostly repeating this from the original question but between the officer I've been speaking to from my university and the NROTC direct source, I'm conflicted as to which is more important - getting it in early (without any college supplements) or waiting a little longer and including those things that they'd prefer to see.
 

rocatlin

5-Year Member
I apologize for not reading your post more clearly and didn't catch the nuance you were Navy option.

Since the Navy side has more boards, you have a little more time. My son actually had someone from his college program staff receive the Navy option scholarship. A person that probably has the best advice would be @NavyNOLA.
 
I apologize for not reading your post more clearly and didn't catch the nuance you were Navy option.

Since the Navy side has more boards, you have a little more time. My son actually had someone from his college program staff receive the Navy option scholarship. A person that probably has the best advice would be @NavyNOLA.
No need to apologize - I'm not sure I even specified. Thank you for the reference!
 

NavyNOLA

Member
Thank you for sharing your experience and congratulations to your DS!

I am actually going in as Navy option and not Marine option.

I can have my application complete relatively soon (including interview and fitness test), meaning probably in time for the first board. However, an LT who responded to an email of mine directly to the NROTC scholarship organization said they're looking to see college performance and teacher recommendations from fall semester, to which she then said means my application would not be complete until after that semester (December of this year). I know I'm mostly repeating this from the original question but between the officer I've been speaking to from my university and the NROTC direct source, I'm conflicted as to which is more important - getting it in early (without any college supplements) or waiting a little longer and including those things that they'd prefer to see.
I figured this issue would pop up on here soon enough.....

NSTC/OD is playing with the idea of making some changes to the way Navy option 4-year National applications from COLLEGE FRESHMEN ONLY are handled. There is a potential that college program freshmen applying for the scholarship will not be boarded until they have completed their first semester of college and final grades are in; college professor recommendations would also be desired vice high school professors. This proposed change has only recently made it down to the units and is the topic of debate. Also under the proposal is the caveat that incoming College Program freshmen who submit their completed application (including officer interview) prior to checking into their NROTC units would be excluded from the one semester holdup.

I'm sure many of you will have many questions about the above. I have many questions and concerns myself, and they're currently being discussed at many levels. For now, the best advice I can give you is to follow the guidance of the staff at your future NROTC unit, as they will best know your path to a scholarship. If the officer at your unit told you August, then listen to that guidance.

More to follow when it's available. There's a conference taking place next week where this is sure to be a topic of conversation.
 

NavyNOLA

Member
With regard to the AFA, your NROTC unit can administer it for you if you ask. You can also use a gym teacher, coach, trainer, etc. over the summer.
 
"We are requiring all the entire freshman year performance before processing applications, therefore you would need your fall grades posted."

I just received this from an email source referenced on the NROTC website.
 

TWITHP

Member
Thank you for sharing your experience and congratulations to your DS!

I am actually going in as Navy option and not Marine option.

I can have my application complete relatively soon (including interview and fitness test), meaning probably in time for the first board. However, an LT who responded to an email of mine directly to the NROTC scholarship organization said they're looking to see college performance and teacher recommendations from fall semester, to which she then said means my application would not be complete until after that semester (December of this year). I know I'm mostly repeating this from the original question but between the officer I've been speaking to from my university and the NROTC direct source, I'm conflicted as to which is more important - getting it in early (without any college supplements) or waiting a little longer and including those things that they'd prefer to see.
I figured this issue would pop up on here soon enough.....

NSTC/OD is playing with the idea of making some changes to the way Navy option 4-year National applications from COLLEGE FRESHMEN ONLY are handled. There is a potential that college program freshmen applying for the scholarship will not be boarded until they have completed their first semester of college and final grades are in; college professor recommendations would also be desired vice high school professors. This proposed change has only recently made it down to the units and is the topic of debate. Also under the proposal is the caveat that incoming College Program freshmen who submit their completed application (including officer interview) prior to checking into their NROTC units would be excluded from the one semester holdup.

I'm sure many of you will have many questions about the above. I have many questions and concerns myself, and they're currently being discussed at many levels. For now, the best advice I can give you is to follow the guidance of the staff at your future NROTC unit, as they will best know your path to a scholarship. If the officer at your unit told you August, then listen to that guidance.

More to follow when it's available. There's a conference taking place next week where this is sure to be a topic of conversation.
I was wondering if there was any new information regarding this topic after the conference?
 

emlc12345

New Member
I just took my AFA and I was wondering if my scores are bad or good I did 42 sit-ups 20 pushups and ran a 7 min 12 sec mile
 
I just took my AFA and I was wondering if my scores are bad or good I did 42 sit-ups 20 pushups and ran a 7 min 12 sec mile
http://www.navy-prt.com/femalestandard/17-19.html

I'm not sure your age group but assuming you're a freshman in college or going to be, this would probably be the chart to look at. 19 pushups is the minimum and you surpassed that. 50 situps is the minimum and you did not surpass that. Your mile time is fine. I'm not sure if the AFA is scored EXACTLY like the PRT in that if you fail one section, you fail the entire thing. Work on those situps - there's a reason guys and girls have the same standards for those; they're supposed to be one of the less challenging for women. Because the scholarship application is not due until January, I would work on those for a month of two, strive to max out or at least fall under the high 'good' category for each and schedule a retake. Good luck!
 

emlc12345

New Member
awesome thank you! and there is no minimum or maximum for the NROTC AFA but I am still going to take it again. and I will be a senior in high school.
 
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