Official 2016 AFROTC POC Selection Process Thread

Wow! That would be a 1st that they release the results within 7 days.

Maybe it is just me because I have been here for years, but I would think the 25th will be the earliest if the board submitted their results on Friday, March 11th.

And maybe it is just me, but I think the 25th is also a wrong date. No flaming me, but historically they have usually notified cadets mid-week (LLAB days). The list may drop on Friday to the CoC, but it will also have a suspense date. IOWS, they can know on Friday, but HQ AFROTC has told them that they cannot inform any cadet until March 29th, 8:00 a.m. (suspense date).

I hope that it will drop by the 19th, but I would say be prepared for the 24th-29th on a good day. Look at the old threads here and you will see the dates for every board slides back with regard to release date. Rarely do they ever drop on time, thus why the cliche for the military is Hurry Up and Wait.
 
Pima said:
Wow! That would be a 1st that they release the results within 7 days.

Maybe it is just me because I have been here for years, but I would think the 25th will be the earliest if the board submitted their results on Friday, March 11th.

And maybe it is just me, but I think the 25th is also a wrong date. No flaming me, but historically they have usually notified cadets mid-week (LLAB days). The list may drop on Friday to the CoC, but it will also have a suspense date. IOWS, they can know on Friday, but HQ AFROTC has told them that they cannot inform any cadet until March 29th, 8:00 a.m. (suspense date).

I hope that it will drop by the 19th, but I would say be prepared for the 24th-29th on a good day. Look at the old threads here and you will see the dates for every board slides back with regard to release date. Rarely do they ever drop on time, thus why the cliche for the military is Hurry Up and Wait.
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Exactly. I thought it was pretty strange also because when I went for the board we submitted our packets in mid Feb and got our result mid to late March that's a month; so this is definitely different and surprising but as you said they rarely drop on time haha. So definitely for you 200/250/500s do not hold your breath. This is one of many of those situations where you are going to just sit and wait haha. Wait until it's time for jobs to drop, people get really anxious haha. Good luck again to all competing.
 
Det commander just emailed the FTP saying that due to there being not enough nominations, they are now reconsidering waivers.

I cried a little reading it. Just to have a chance makes me happy.
 
My Det says we won't find out until after our Spring Break ends (we get back 28 March). Either date could be true, hopefully we'll all know by next week. Good luck everyone.
 
noketchup said:
Det commander just emailed the FTP saying that due to there being not enough nominations, they are now reconsidering waivers.

I cried a little reading it. Just to have a chance makes me happy.
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This is sort of bizarre to me, after reading on here every now and then I think my Det tells us less than others around the nation, but this reads to me like that means everyone with a qualified DoDMERB that met the mins has a slot and they are looking for more. Seems like a weird thing to email to your FTP before you get EAs back.
 
And this:

Phyzix said:
Good morning everyone!

It has just been informed by CoC that basically the SFT selection rate is so high this year, almost everyone will get a slot. However, because this is the case, he wants to "weed" out those who are on the borderline. As a result, there will be a test, an evaluation consisting of a 5K run, 100 push-ups, 100 sit-ups, a written test, etc.

How common do detachments do this? I know it's because they believe some of the 200s don't deserve to go, and they're even thinking of dropping 1 or 2 "lazy" POCs to set an example.

Can they do this? I would be extremely upset if I got a SFT slot and didn't pass this midterm evaluation.
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We were told by our cadre in the fall they expected high rates again, but not to take that as canon because things can always change.
 
I would bet on it that the EA rates would be high. You can see the correlation between the financial/manning situation of the Air Force with EA rates. During my FTP year we faced sequestration and RIF and thus our rate was 60% one of the lowest EA rates in a while. The following year the EA rates were 90% as Big Blue stated they want more officers in RPA and Nuclear field. This year the Air Force wants more Airmen overall and has opened up more slots in OTS and such. That gives me full confidence that the EA rates are high as there are no financial/manpower factor that would say EA rates are low.
 
This year apparently OTS will be the largest commissioning source, seeing as the ROTC class graduating this year were in the low selection year. Things can always change though, so we'll just have to see how this pans out.
 
Maybe someone more familiar with the process can explain further, but I don't really see how OTS has an impact on FTP since all of those guys are commissioning at the end of it and everyone going to FT would be Fiscal Year 18/19
 
The AFROTC needs however many cadets to be commissioned for FY18 & 19. They opened up for EA applicants, and did not get enough. They are loosening tolerances by opening up to certain waivers for consideration to make sure they have enough cadets to commission in those years.

Its not as if they are taking in a crazy number like 3000 cadets. Its probably going to be 2000-2100. They just couldnt fill in all those spots with candidates.

As for my OTS comment, the fact that the Air Force is drawing like crazy now from OTS shows that there is a pretty sizable personnel shortage. Short term solution is large OTS selection, long term is to ensure a good flow through ROTC and AFA of the right amount of candidates.

Simple enough?
 
I'll reiterate what I said earlier, there's no way my Det would've have emailed the entire (or anyone most likely) FTP that HQ said all spots weren't filled initially. My Det is also quite a bit larger than yours so that may be part of it. That is most of my hangup on what you've said.

Also I thought you were trying to correlate this year's FTP with OCS size, if that isn't the case carry on.
 
How else would they have explained that results were pushed back? And to not email at least the cadets that fall into the waiver process isnt good, because you may have a cadet who is great that either gives up on going, and therefore stops preparing for FT, or worse, quits ROTC.

And not directly.
 
Like Pima said, already having results back would've been uncharacteristically quick so there wouldn't be a reason to think results have been pushed back.

I would also assume most people would've made their decision to stay or not when they were told they didn't get nominated to the board this year, like you said you were immediately offered a 500 slot for next year
 
Unless cadets were already told 25 March and now had to wait an extra week.

And again, sometimes minds change.
 
Just for those doubting it being out by the 25th...We had ours before we were even back from spring break and that was last week.
 
I am so confused right now.

Are the results released already?
 
I am going to say my 0.0198764 cents in this debate between noketchup and clickclak
noketchup said:
As for my OTS comment, the fact that the Air Force is drawing like crazy now from OTS shows that there is a pretty sizable personnel shortage. Short term solution is large OTS selection, long term is to ensure a good flow through ROTC and AFA of the right amount of candidates.
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I disagree. It does not show any correlation that there is a "sizeable personnel shortage". in fact it could imply how sequestration is part of the equation, and because we are still living through it, OTS is how they are squeaking the pennies in their budget.
~ROTC and USAFA cost a lot to maintain.

My close friend's DS went OTS rated, He was selected as a rising senior in college. Basically from a rated perspective the AF saved a lot of money. Even without a scholarship, as a POC he would have received a stipend. With him, no $$$ and they knew that he would come on line the same time as the rising 400s,

Secondly, enlisted members that opt to go to OTS have an undergrad degree, be it using TA or not, they are like ROTC grads, but the big difference is at the point of walking.
~ Assume they enlisted at 18, and now are 24. In the rated world they would have 17 years in before they can walk. Chances are they would stay until 20 for retirement pay, unlike the ROTC or USAFA grad that could walk at 10.

Big Blue is not dumb. OTS, impo before sequestration was a stop gap from a personnel aspect, but I think because of sequestration it is now about saving money and not personnel.
~ Biggest reason why I say this is because AFROTC is not loosening up standards for DoDMERB or academics.

noketchup said:
How else would they have explained that results were pushed back? And to not email at least the cadets that fall into the waiver process isnt good, because you may have a cadet who is great that either gives up on going, and therefore stops preparing for FT, or worse, quits ROTC
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Sorry, but you are going to hate me right now. That is the AF. You are a last 4 digit SS number. They don't have to explain squat to you. You are not ADAF. They owe you nothing.
~ Old school here. They don't have to explain why it was pushed back.
~~ Hurry up an wait is a cliche because that will be your life
 
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