Official Naval Academy Class of 2016 Appointment Thread

Non-Apointee?

Am I right to think that the later I hear from USNA, the less likely it is that I will be offered appointment? -Nominated by MD-08, Chris Van Hollen, January 24th.
 
Who knows?

I think that is probably accurate, but the truth is, no one knows.
 
Hey USNA people, USAFA candidate here. I just wanted to congratulate all of you who received appointments to Annapolis! :smile:
 
I can't say with 100% certainty, but at least some of of MD district appointment decisions have not been made.
 
I'm a rookie with this stuff, so I have a question. Given that MANY appointments have gone out, and a BGO just said that she/he thought that MD decisions have not been made yet. Just how regional is this process? What I mean is this: If district X has been reviewed and appointments offered using whatever mysterious metric the USNA uses --- is it then possible that when district Y is reviewed -- offers will be extended compared to candidates in that district only, or are they compared to all other candidates (given that some candidates were not offered appointments in district X)...it is quite confusing....and probably intentionally so. How many other regions have not yet been decided?

It implies that people from the "MD district" are only allowed to compete for a certain number of appointments (in this case the few appointments left), even if they have absolutely stellar candidates who may be more competitive than candidates who were already given appointments from district X.

I hope this made sense...but I doubt that I was able to articulate the question!
 
I think you are asking how are slates decided?

In general, MOCs/VP can have 5 MIDN at USNA at a given time, which normally equates to 1 appointment per slate per year (some years it may be more). For every appointment slot, the MOC can nominate 10 candidates, who are competing for that slot (in other words, within the state/district). If not selected for a MOC appointment, then the candidates go in the national pool.
 
jadler03 said:
I think you are asking how are slates decided?

In general, MOCs/VP can have 5 MIDN at USNA at a given time, which normally equates to 1 appointment per slate per year (some years it may be more). For every appointment slot, the MOC can nominate 10 candidates, who are competing for that slot (in other words, within the state/district). If not selected for a MOC appointment, then the candidates go in the national pool.
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I guess my question is, isn't it a definite advantage to be in the region that was review first and is it a definite disadvantage to be in the region that was reviewed last? Have any appointments been awarded from the national pool at this point? if they have, that hurts people from maryland who were not given an appointment but still considered competitive and put into the national pool.


I apologize for my ignorance if I'm just clueless embarrassing myself!
 
I’m a bit confused by this too, as I was told by my MOC rep and my BGO that no one in my district (TX3) has heard anything at all- good or bad.
I keep thinking maybe things are slower this year because they have so many applicants?
 
NROTC- National Scholarship Recipient

not long after writing my last post I found out that the marine corps was offering me a national scholarship- which made me wonder, can marine reservists apply to the naval acedmy- would it be possible for me to go marine reserves/NROTC in a simultaneous membership program, like the army one for ARNG/ROTC? and would this help my chances for an appointment if I reapplied next year? how many slots are open for active duty/reserve sailors?
 
educ8 said:
I guess my question is, isn't it a definite advantage to be in the region that was review first and is it a definite disadvantage to be in the region that was reviewed last? Have any appointments been awarded from the national pool at this point? if they have, that hurts people from maryland who were not given an appointment but still considered competitive and put into the national pool.


I apologize for my ignorance if I'm just clueless embarrassing myself!
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Not an expert but from what I have read on this site and my DDs experience the "slates" are reviewed independent of each other so there is no advantage to being "early". I thnk a lot of the order depends on when the MOCs get thier information to the admissions office.
 
So, as BGO Jadler03 thinks that at least some of the MD region appointments have not yet been made. Doesn't that mean that on that MD slate, that some of the candidates (the ones who are not offered appointments) have not yet been placed into the national pool? And there are other slates that were determined long ago and the candidates who were not offered appointments on those slates were placed into the national pool long ago, giving them an obvious and huge advantage? If we assume that there have been appointments made from the national pool, then the system is skewed toward those lucky enough to be reviewed early.

How many other slates or regions have not yet been decided?
 
sgtpenn said:
So, as BGO Jadler03 thinks that at least some of the MD region appointments have not yet been made. Doesn't that mean that on that MD slate, that some of the candidates (the ones who are not offered appointments) have not yet been placed into the national pool? And there are other slates that were determined long ago and the candidates who were not offered appointments on those slates were placed into the national pool long ago, giving them an obvious and huge advantage? If we assume that there have been appointments made from the national pool, then the system is skewed toward those lucky enough to be reviewed early.

How many other slates or regions have not yet been decided?
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IMO, at this point most of the MOC appointments have now been made. The only ones that should be outstanding are situations where the principal nominee is on hold for medical. I can't say for sure how that's handled, but I would assume the other 9 would be put into the National Pool right away and if, for some reason, the principal nominee dropped out, the next most qualified applicant would be plucked from the National Pool and given the appointment.

My understanding is that they don't start making appointments out of the national pool until after the MOC slates are due (Jan. 31). That's why most appointments go out in Feb and March. They are coming from both MOC slates and the National Pool.

USNA isn't going to disadvantage qualified applicants b/c MOCs are slow or b/c of the order of review. At least I've seen no evidence of that.
 
My information was as of about 2-2.5 weeks ago. I was told that a few MD slates still had not been reviewed by Admissions and that they were still going slate-by-slate. Admissions really has their work cut out for them.

I agree with usna1985, USNA knows how many MOC appointment slots there are, so they can apportion appropriately and fairly.
 
Is it correct to assume that appointments from the national pool are not made until all slates are reviewed and typically are the last group to be reviewed? Seems to me that it is only fair to beging to rank candidates in the pool once all candidates who are not slated are placed in the pool- after all MOC slates are reviewed.

Also at this point would all appointments that are being charged to presidental noms have been made as well are could there still be more appointments this lates from that category as well?
 
So before this thread spirals out of control (not in a bad way), a lot of this Chinese math is done in the midst of Leahy. I don't think any of us can say with an overwhelming amount of confidence (beyond speculation) of how Admissions is handling and where they are currently (as of today) in the process this year. However, as previously said, Admissions will handle it in a way that is deliberate and fair to all candidates who are competing for an appointment. There is no way of knowing (those on this board) if all the nominating sources quotas have been used.

Bottom line, there is just about 2 weeks left, so sit back and relax. At this point, the method really doesn't matter.
 
Is this cycle different that previous ones? I thought the general experience was for BFE's in March, and TWE's in April. We have been thinking there was only a few more days find good news in the mailbox for our DS.
 
mainernavymom,

What you described is typically true, though appointments are given up to I-Day. The cycle isn't "different" but it might be more exhaustive because of the decrease in number of appointments for this class, as well as LESS candidates declining appointments.

If I recall correctly, I don't think Admissions was anticipating on having to the decrease the class (from previous ones) at the beginning of the candidate cycle.
 
I was told by a BGO that TWEs started going out in February, which gave me hope that if I haven't received one yet, I still have a chance. Maybe that was bad information. I guess I'll know either way in less than 3 weeks.
 
wait4now,

It wasn't bad information -- until you receive the TWE, you are still in it.
 
Is the portal that people use to check status the same as the Naval Academy Candidate Information System that includes your candidate information (candidate data, required documents w/ dates, test scores, nominations, etc.)? If so, which section would be updated if you receive an appointment or are not selected?
 
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