Absolutely! Hope these rumors are just rumors.Situations like these strike a few nerves with somebody was QNS.
Rumors, not situation.
the first week of beast cannot possibly get you DQ'd for failing to meet a standard that doesn't exist.
This rumor rings false.
Why does West Point (and USNA, USAFA, and USMMA for that matter) use one physical fitness entrance test for admission (CFA), and then a completely different test once you are in?
Why are these fitness parameters (throwing a basketball, doing a pull-up, or a "shuttle" run) suddenly not important anymore.
Makes much more sense to use the same test for admissions that they will have to meet once they are admitted, and that test should be the same test they will have to meet once they commission and are serving on active duty.
Why does West Point (and USNA, USAFA, and USMMA for that matter) use one physical fitness entrance test for admission (CFA), and then a completely different test once you are in?
Why are these fitness parameters (throwing a basketball, doing a pull-up, or a "shuttle" run) suddenly not important anymore.
Makes much more sense to use the same test for admissions that they will have to meet once they are admitted, and that test should be the same test they will have to meet once they commission and are serving on active duty.
I think there is a pass fail line but it is not publicized.It's an assessment, not a test. It is meant to evaluate bio mechanical physical capabilities and agility as well as strength and endurance. There is no pass/fail line like the APFT.
It's not that they aren't important, it that they are evaluated in different areas at the academy.
I never took an SAT or ACT at West Point or a GRE in grad school.
If a candidate presented a CFA to West Point that said they could do X number of pull-ups, they probably should be able to do X number of pull-ups when they get to West Point.
I think there is a pass fail line but it is not publicized.
So far as being able to do X number of pull-ups when they get to West Point, why? They trained to do an evaluation that they knew would not be part of future requirements. After completing the CFA, what is their reason for continuing to train for pull-ups?
I think the "one-stop shopping" is the reason for the CFA for 4/5 SA's.
I was thinking the same thing! Packer, you dont think pull ups are part of the Army?It's one-stop like the SAT and ACT are for all colleges. West Point used to have its own test before standardized ones. Efficiency isn't necessarily bad.
And how are pull-ups not a future requirement at West Point/in the Army? I had to do them to pass the yearling fitness test. They are required for Airborne and Ranger school. Every battalion on my post has pull-up bars outside. Pull-up are an important evaluation of physical strength and Army leaders should be able to do them.
I was thinking the same thing! Packer, you dont think pull ups are part of the Army?