Physics Masters after EE Bachelor

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  1. GenericUserName

    GenericUserName Member

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    I have applied to CGA and declared EE as my major but also have some interest in physics. I know this is very far out, but is it possible to get a physics master after an EE Bachelor?
     
  2. CrewDad

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    You can double major at CGA if you place out of few classes and make room. CGA will pay for your grad school while in service. Don’t rush take one thing at a time.
     
  3. GenericUserName

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    CGA doesn't offer physics as a major
     
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    I know that. So you can take classes to prep you for grad school while taking EE. Take more advanced math classes. You need deep math for high level Physics. So when you major in Physics you can place out of advanced math and take more relevant classes to Major. Grad school is very quick little time for prerequisites.
     
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    @GenericUserName, yes, it’s possible to get a master’s degree in physics after getting a bachelor’s degree in EE. But it’ll take some prerequisites, as @CrewDad says. And you’ll need to find the schools that are most open to this transition. The more-competitive schools can be open to it in theory, but you could be bypassed for students who committed to physics from the beginning. So broadly speaking, is it possible? Yes. But be prepared for some limitations.
     
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  7. ekb1398

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    I would also add to this that it probably will not be a Coast Guard funded master's, as many Cadets later go on to take advantage of. I would say engineering/applied physics is possible but probably a very long stretch, so just keep in mind it will be on your own time and dime, even if that dime is a GI Bill.

    I just want to throw this out as food for thought, not to discourage you. This is the second post I've seen in as many days about studying physics by you. Make sure you are really okay with studying EE - 4 years here is hard when you absolutely love what you're doing, and I couldn't even imagine surviving here in an engineering major if I was settling for something. If physics is really where your heart is and EE is just the closest thing we offer but you aren't all that interested, then perhaps another academy or ROTC may be a better fit, or maybe you don't like the idea of those. I'm just throwing this out there for consideration.
     
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  8. trackandfield08

    trackandfield08 USCGA 2014 10-Year Member

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    @ekb1398 makes a very good point here, you need to be certain EE is what you want to study. In part, because EE is one of the more technically difficult majors CGA offers. Not very many people graduate with an EE degree. I asked an EE classmate out of curiosity - when we were at CGA (not too long ago), the average number of people who declared EE their freshman year was around 30. The number of people who graduated as an EE was in the low teens, in my class's case, 13. Some of the remaining 17 did not graduate and some changed majors - voluntarily and because they couldn't meet the requirements. OP, if you had to change majors, is there something else you could switch to and still be happy/satisfied?

    From an undergraduate perspective, you could study physics as a Marine and Environmental Science (MES) major. To graduate, you have to pick two tracks to study from three options - Physics, Chemistry, and Biology. A lot of people go Chemistry/Biology or Physics/Biology, not many do Physics/Chemistry but you have the option.

    To answer your question about graduate school (or the Advanced Education Program), the CG does not currently sponsor a Physics graduate degree. So, the CG will not pay for you to get a Physics degree. However, you can use Tuition Assistance to fund your own degree and pay out of pocket as well. Nothing stops you from working during the day and going to school at night, that's how a lot of people get their degree. You will also have the GI Bill available to you 8 years after you graduate (it takes three years to accrue the full benefits, but you must serve your 5 year commitment first if you graduated after 2014).

    The graduate programs the CG will sponsor are:

    Academy Company Officer
    Leadership Studies
    Academy Instructor
    Acquisitions Systems Management
    Aero Eng Avionics Project Management
    Aero Eng STEM MBA
    Aero Eng Structures
    Asia Pacific Center for Security Studies
    Aviation Safety Systems
    C4IT Strategic Management
    Central Security Service(NSA/CSS) Fellowship
    Chemical Engineering
    Civil Engineering
    Civil Engineering Management
    Civil Engineering MBA
    Communications, Computer, and Electrical Engineering
    Damage Ctrl Industrial Tech
    Electrical Power Systems & Controls
    Emergency Management Environmental Management
    Financial Accounting
    Financial Management
    Fire Protection Engineering
    Healthcare Admin
    Homeland Security
    Human Resources Management
    Industrial Engineering
    Industrial Hygiene
    Information Assurance
    Information Technology Management
    International Affairs(Olmstead Program)
    International Affairs Policy
    Law (JD)
    Law (LLM)
    Marine Affairs/LMR
    Marine Engineering
    Marine Science(Oceanography)
    Maritime Operations
    Mechanical Engineering
    Naval Engineering
    Naval Institute Fellowship
    Ocean Engineering
    Operations Research
    Organizational Leadership
    Performance Technology
    Physician Assistant
    Public Administration
    Public Affairs
    Reserve Resources Management
    Strategic Intelligence
    Transportation Management
    Western Hemisphere Institute for Security

    The one way you could possibly get a Physics degree paid for is if you applied to the Academy Instructor program and there was a opening for a Physics Instructor. That is definitely not a guarantee though, as it all depends on people rotating and you getting the one slot that dozens of people would apply for.

    You mention graduate school being far off - it is. In reality, you have four years of CGA and then at least your first two years as a JO before you can even hope to go to graduate school. In reality, you may not go until your third tour - which is nine years away from now. Focus on enjoying your senior year, focus on staying physically fit, and focus on the short term goals. It's great to have dreams, I would never discourage you from asking long-term questions. But, slow down just a little.
     
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  9. ekb1398

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    In reply to trackandfield, I believe they actually changed the way MES works starting with the class of '22 in terms of the way the tracks work, but I'm not positive of that.
     
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  10. GenericUserName

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    Thank you all for taking the time to answer my question in such detail. I will be completely dedicated to EE. I just want to make sure I research all my options before I commit to something that will have a profound effect on the next decade of my life.
     
  11. SamAca10

    SamAca10 5-Year Member

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    to piggy back off trackandfield, you'll certainly be able to get a masters in physics with the EE curriculum, especially if you go the systems track. The systems track has an electromagnetics course, as well as a communications signals systems course, both of which are mathematically intensive.

    Source: I was an EE major at the academy who focused on the computer track
     
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  12. fencersmother

    fencersmother 10-Year Member Founding Member

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    My son was a Physics major at USAFA and there was a young lady there who double majored in EE & Physics. Worked out well there since many classes pertained to both majors.

    Graduate Physics programs may prove problematic without the undergrad degree and associated pre-reqs, and if you have to pay for it on your own, it does get pricey.

    AND, by the time you graduate USCGA, you may not have time to acquire the Physics degree, especially since (please correct if I am wrong) there are hands-on LABS associated with that MS in Physics. Harder to do as distance learning.
     
  13. trackandfield08

    trackandfield08 USCGA 2014 10-Year Member

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    I didn't see any changes on the website, but that doesn't mean anything if you're familiar with the CG and updates to information. ;) I'd definitely be interested to hear what the changes are if that is true.

    Also, I stand corrected on the tracks you can be in - Physics is not an option, it's Physical Oceanography. Therefore, you cannot explore physics as an undergraduate at USCGA outside of the required Physics 1 and/or Physics 2 requirement.
     
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