Results came out for AROTC

I read on another thread that someone that did not receive an offer from the first board received an ECP Scholarship offer (They are declining the offer). Have you heard anything or received an ECP offer?
Not yet, I have not received anything
 
I got a 4-year scholarship to Princeton, MIT, and Cornell! Apparently we have to accept the scholarship before admissions comes out—does anyone know if this is binding though? I'm still waiting on my NROTC scholarship.
 
I got a 4-year scholarship to Princeton, MIT, and Cornell! Apparently we have to accept the scholarship before admissions comes out—does anyone know if this is binding though? I'm still waiting on my NROTC scholarship.

Accepting the scholarship is not binding, if your receive a NROTC Scholarship and decide to go Navy you would simply contact Cadet Command and decline the AROTC Scholarship. In short, definitely accept the AROTC Scholarship then see what happens later.

When you accept the AROTC Scholarship, decide which is your number one choice or the school that you think you have the best shot of being admitted. The scholarship paperwork you receive will have information about transferring the scholarship to a different school if that is something you find you need to do.
 
Hi All,

Unfortunately my son was not a awarded a 4-year on the first board. Pretty strong all around in terms 3-varsity sport captain, prefect (leader)at school, high grades. I'm wondering if those who did receive the scholarships want to share any SAT/ACT information. My son had a 1350 (730E/620M) and we're just wondering what the first round scores might have looked like. Congrats to all -- we're hanging in for the next two rounds and/or signing up when he gets to college, so all good (I was a 4-year guy back in ancient times......).
 
Hi All,

Unfortunately my son was not a awarded a 4-year on the first board. Pretty strong all around in terms 3-varsity sport captain, prefect (leader)at school, high grades. I'm wondering if those who did receive the scholarships want to share any SAT/ACT information. My son had a 1350 (730E/620M) and we're just wondering what the first round scores might have looked like. Congrats to all -- we're hanging in for the next two rounds and/or signing up when he gets to college, so all good (I was a 4-year guy back in ancient times......).
I feel you. I wasn't selected for this board either. I also applied for the ECP so I'm hoping that can come to me before the 2nd board. I believe my ACT kind of brought me down a bit (26 ACT or 1270 SAT). My leadership (President of my school, boys state assemblyman, numerous hrs of community service, etc), PT, and interview was good but i guess it wasn't enough [emoji23]
 
Hi All,

Unfortunately my son was not a awarded a 4-year on the first board. Pretty strong all around in terms 3-varsity sport captain, prefect (leader)at school, high grades. I'm wondering if those who did receive the scholarshipsm want to share any SAT/ACT information. My son had a 1350 (730E/620M) and we're just wondering what the first round scores might have looked like. Congrats to all -- we're hanging in for the next two rounds and/or signing up when he gets to college, so all good (I was a 4-year guy back in ancient times......).

My son wasn’t selected either. 1370 SAT (690/680), strong grades from highly ranked public HS in large state, 3 Varsity sports, Eagle Scout, and Boys State. Interviewer said his application looked strong and was very encouraging.

Disappointed as we were told that the first board distributed the largest number of scholarships and that second and third boards have smaller numbers to award.
 
Disappointed as we were told that the first board distributed the largest number of scholarships and that second and third boards have smaller numbers to award.

That's actually backwards. The first board awards the smallest number, then the second and finally the third awards the largest number. It gives the pool time to develop so they have a better idea of the candidates they are dealing with. Hang tough, but always work plan B, C, D, and E.
 
Hi All,

Unfortunately my son was not a awarded a 4-year on the first board. Pretty strong all around in terms 3-varsity sport captain, prefect (leader)at school, high grades. I'm wondering if those who did receive the scholarshipsm want to share any SAT/ACT information. My son had a 1350 (730E/620M) and we're just wondering what the first round scores might have looked like. Congrats to all -- we're hanging in for the next two rounds and/or signing up when he gets to college, so all good (I was a 4-year guy back in ancient times......).

My son wasn’t selected either. 1370 SAT (690/680), strong grades from highly ranked public HS in large state, 3 Varsity sports, Eagle Scout, and Boys State. Interviewer said his application looked strong and was very encouraging.

Disappointed as we were told that the first board distributed the largest number of scholarships and that second and third boards have smaller numbers to award.

I've been surprised by the dearth of any kind of statistics or data to help understand the process -- along with the somewhat contradictory anecdotal information. For instance, in contrast to what you heard, if you read some of the other threads on this board, you'd think that more scholarships are meted out in round two, because more requests come in after the first deadline and the pool expands. One thing I haven't seen mentioned is the requirement that you name your schools in the process. I wonder what role that plays in selection? I can't imagine that DoD isn't trying to take the best kids while also distributing the scholarship winners among the existing programs. Why else have that requirement and ranking, and a waiver process if you want to choose another school? Your son and mine sound like equally strong candidates, yet on one of the other threads, a poster claimed he had no real leadership examples from HS, yet received a 4-year scholarship (maybe troll....). All food for thought. Good luck in the next round. All these kids regardless of their "numbers" deserve credit for being willing to serve.
 
Disappointed as we were told that the first board distributed the largest number of scholarships and that second and third boards have smaller numbers to award.

That's actually backwards. The first board awards the smallest number, then the second and finally the third awards the largest number. It gives the pool time to develop so they have a better idea of the candidates they are dealing with. Hang tough, but always work plan B, C, D, and E.

Info was provided by a person who got my son’s contact info from his West Point application (not employed by WP - a regional liaison type person). This person stressed that it was important for DS to get his AROTC materials in for first board based on reason stated above re distribution of awards. We figured his info was good.

Agree that is difficult to make decisions based on anecdotal info.
 
Well, getting it in fof the first board is always a good idea when possible. Just wanted you to be aware that thOKngs are not so grim.
 
Well, getting it in fof the first board is always a good idea when possible. Just wanted you to be aware that thOKngs are not so grim.
Applying early meant that DS didn’t know whether he would be a captain for his winter or spring sports. Everything else would be the same, but if your info is correct (and the info we were provided is incorrect) he would have been slightly better off applying later.

But the bigger point is that it is hard to make those determinations based on purely anecdotal info, even if you think it is coming from a reliable source.

It’s not grim - DS will still have nice college options and there are plenty of options to serve. But AROTC was/is his first preference
 
Hi All,

Unfortunately my son was not a awarded a 4-year on the first board. Pretty strong all around in terms 3-varsity sport captain, prefect (leader)at school, high grades. I'm wondering if those who did receive the scholarshipsm want to share any SAT/ACT information. My son had a 1350 (730E/620M) and we're just wondering what the first round scores might have looked like. Congrats to all -- we're hanging in for the next two rounds and/or signing up when he gets to college, so all good (I was a 4-year guy back in ancient times......).

My son wasn’t selected either. 1370 SAT (690/680), strong grades from highly ranked public HS in large state, 3 Varsity sports, Eagle Scout, and Boys State. Interviewer said his application looked strong and was very encouraging.

Disappointed as we were told that the first board distributed the largest number of scholarships and that second and third boards have smaller numbers to award.

I've been surprised by the dearth of any kind of statistics or data to help understand the process -- along with the somewhat contradictory anecdotal information. For instance, in contrast to what you heard, if you read some of the other threads on this board, you'd think that more scholarships are meted out in round two, because more requests come in after the first deadline and the pool expands. One thing I haven't seen mentioned is the requirement that you name your schools in the process. I wonder what role that plays in selection? I can't imagine that DoD isn't trying to take the best kids while also distributing the scholarship winners among the existing programs. Why else have that requirement and ranking, and a waiver process if you want to choose another school? Your son and mine sound like equally strong candidates, yet on one of the other threads, a poster claimed he had no real leadership examples from HS, yet received a 4-year scholarship (maybe troll....). All food for thought. Good luck in the next round. All these kids regardless of their "numbers" deserve credit for being willing to serve.
Good luck to your kid too - they both sound like great kids!
 
Disappointed as we were told that the first board distributed the largest number of scholarships and that second and third boards have smaller numbers to award.

This is absolutely not the case, as Kinnem said, the first board gives the fewest number of scholarships, last year it was below 300 I believe. The vast majority of scholarships are given on the next two boards.

One thing to remember for those that have stats they thought should be good enough for the first board, the first board also has the fewest number of applicants, Cadet Command does not give out a large number for this board because there will be many more applicants added to the pool by the second board.

School choices can have some to do with it as well, they do not want to fill up a school's quota on the first board, if the schools listed have very competitive programs in regard to the number of applicants that list that school, they will give offers spread out over the three boards.

Don't get bogged down by trying to compare stats, there is a lot more that goes into the decisions beyond stats, how many slots for a given school, how many list those schools, does the program usually fill all their slots.

The next two boards will have many more winners and those with the solid applications have a good chance for the next boards. It's tough but all that can be done now is wait until the next board.

Best of luck to you all.
 
Hi All,

Unfortunately my son was not a awarded a 4-year on the first board. Pretty strong all around in terms 3-varsity sport captain, prefect (leader)at school, high grades. I'm wondering if those who did receive the scholarships want to share any SAT/ACT information. My son had a 1350 (730E/620M) and we're just wondering what the first round scores might have looked like. Congrats to all -- we're hanging in for the next two rounds and/or signing up when he gets to college, so all good (I was a 4-year guy back in ancient times......).

I was awarded a 4-year scholarship to Stanford, Yale, and UPenn on the first board. My ACT was a 35 composite.
 
I've been surprised by the dearth of any kind of statistics or data to help understand the process -- along with the somewhat contradictory anecdotal information. For instance, in contrast to what you heard, if you read some of the other threads on this board, you'd think that more scholarships are meted out in round two, because more requests come in after the first deadline and the pool expands. One thing I haven't seen mentioned is the requirement that you name your schools in the process. I wonder what role that plays in selection? I can't imagine that DoD isn't trying to take the best kids while also distributing the scholarship winners among the existing programs. Why else have that requirement and ranking, and a waiver process if you want to choose another school? Your son and mine sound like equally strong candidates, yet on one of the other threads, a poster claimed he had no real leadership examples from HS, yet received a 4-year scholarship (maybe troll....). All food for thought. Good luck in the next round. All these kids regardless of their "numbers" deserve credit for being willing to serve.

Throughout this process there won't be the kind of statistics you are looking for, the process can be a real mystery sometimes and it's hard to form any conclusions based on the stats a few applicants may post.

It is true that the majority of scholarships are given on the second and third boards and the pool does expand by the time the second board comes around.

The schools listed on the application does have an impact. Remember that there are over 250 schools that have an AROTC program and scholarships will be awarded to most all of them. Some schools may have well over 100 applicants that list the school, some will have just a few. When you see someone that received a scholarship that seems to have lower stats, they may have listed schools that are less competitive or have fewer applicants that listed those schools.

I can give my younger son as an example,(This was back in 2010) he listed smaller state schools, one's you may not have even heard of. The applicant pool was much smaller. While he had very god Athletic and leadership stats his GPA was 3.5 with a 24 ACT. He received a 4 year scholarship from the first board to 4 of the schools he listed, had he listed schools that had a larger pool to select from he would most likely been rolled to the next board.

So understand that while it seems that they have great stats, there is a lot more that goes into the process then just having a good application.

Both sons went to the same school and ROTC program, and just as a side note; Smaller lesser known schools do not mean it will hurt there chances in ROTC. Both sons finished high on the OML and Branched Aviation. The school you attend does not give one a better or less chance to succeed in ROTC.

Best of luck
 
Well, getting it in fof the first board is always a good idea when possible. Just wanted you to be aware that thOKngs are not so grim.
Applying early meant that DS didn’t know whether he would be a captain for his winter or spring sports. Everything else would be the same, but if your info is correct (and the info we were provided is incorrect) he would have been slightly better off applying later.

But the bigger point is that it is hard to make those determinations based on purely anecdotal info, even if you think it is coming from a reliable source.

Generally speaking, the 1st board hands out the least awards but as you'll see, they all tend to be 4 year awards and if you look at the recipients school choices, these are the "rocket scientist" kids for the most part. There is actually also a disadvantage to getting chosen on the 1st board as these kids are finding out in October that they received the scholarship but they only have 30 days to accept the scholarship AND choose a school. The rub is they may not know for months if they're going to get into their chosen school. By the time they find out they didn't get into "school A" and try to transfer their scholarship to "school B", "school B" might already have a full ROTC unit. That happened to a friend of ours who was trying to get into MIT and Notre Dame was her #2 choice. By the time MIT advised her she didn't get in, Notre Dame was full so she went to the Naval Academy....and became a Marine :)
 
Hi All,

Unfortunately my son was not a awarded a 4-year on the first board. Pretty strong all around in terms 3-varsity sport captain, prefect (leader)at school, high grades. I'm wondering if those who did receive the scholarships want to share any SAT/ACT information. My son had a 1350 (730E/620M) and we're just wondering what the first round scores might have looked like. Congrats to all -- we're hanging in for the next two rounds and/or signing up when he gets to college, so all good (I was a 4-year guy back in ancient times......).

I received a 1540 SAT score (750 Reading, 790 Math), and I also had 800s in SAT Math II and SAT Biology-Ecology. Idk if the subject tests helped, but I did send them in too. I think they look at your academics the most. I wasn't a captain of my club ice hockey team, and my school doesn't have an ice hockey team, so I didn't play any school sports. However, my leadership in my extra curriculars was quite strong, and I have taken 14 AP classes (with straight A's). It's also interesting because I did not have any military program experience at all.
 
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I think they look at your academics the most.

The strong leadership probably did a lot to make up for any shortfall in athletics. While excellent academics and test scores help, they are only one part of the equation, the academics section of the scoring has a max, the rest of the application scores make up the rest of the application.
 
I was boarded/under consideration on Thursday evening. Then on Friday afternoon I received an email from the UNITED STATE NAVAL ACADEMY for an offer of appointment !!
 
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