Strong candidate vs recruited athlete

Yoko

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I will applying for the class of 2022 and consider myself a competitive candidate with strong academic and leadership scores and should do well on the CFA. My friend just recieved an offer to play football at WP. However, he holds no leadership positions and has a poor ACT composite in the low 20's and a poor GPA as well.We live in the same congressional district and attend the same high school. How could this affect my chance of receiving a nomination and appointment? Thanks.
 

AROTC-dad

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I would think a recruited athlete who has low GPA, and low test scores...would likely be sent to USMAPS instead of a direct appointment.
 

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More than one student in a district or even a high school can get into a service academy. My son's high school had four accepted to USNA two years ago--and it is not a giant school. It happens. Do not make yourself crazy worrying about the other guy--just focus on preparing your best possible application--and following through to completion.
 

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First; it is entirely possible for multiple candidates getting appointed out of the same district. Secondly, all things are relative. USMA uses a WCS system which awards points in several different categories. The academy is not required to award the appointment for an MOC spot to the candidate with the highest WCS, but generally that is the case. Recruited athletes still compete for the same nomination MOC slots, but sometimes can receive an appointment through the superintendents picks. Keep in mind you will have at least three MOC slots to compete for; your congressman, and two senators. Additionally, if you receive a nomination you, and are fully qualified, you will compete on the NWL. You did not mention what your application numbers are, but if you are highly competitive, fully qualified, and receive at least one nomination, there is a very decent chance you will get an appointment. I wouldn't let the athlete being in your district discourage you. Honestly, there may be three or four recruited athletes in your district. Look at the class profiles for the last few USMA entering classes, and work to put yourself in a premium position. Get your ACT scores up there, and be near the top of your HS class rank. Multiple Varsity team sports will help; team captain would help a ton. Student council or NHS officer spots, will score a lot. Do what you can. You have lots of time, and wont want to think about what could have been.
 

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More than one student in a district or even a high school can get into a service academy. My son's high school had four accepted to USNA two years ago--and it is not a giant school. It happens. Do not make yourself crazy worrying about the other guy--just focus on preparing your best possible application--and following through to completion.

This is true .. my DD and her schoolmate (also a girl) both got LOA and appointment for West Point's Class of 2021.
 

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You are not competing against this football player. He came in a different door; you must be on a slate while he's on a Sup nom most likely. This is apples to oranges.
 

ten042

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Also, it is waayyyy too early for a player to commit to anyone right now. I bet that player will get multiple offers from other programs and Army is just the first to the dance. I have seen many talented players receive offers from SAs, but few to none of these players actually accept them unless they see themselves at an academy.
Good question though! You won't be the only applicant in this situation. And if he is a really good player, we are counting on you to help recruit him! [emoji6]. Haha.
Go Army!!!
 

USMA85

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First; it is entirely possible for multiple candidates getting appointed out of the same district. Secondly, all things are relative. USMA uses a WCS system which awards points in several different categories. The academy is not required to award the appointment for an MOC spot to the candidate with the highest WCS, but generally that is the case. Recruited athletes still compete for the same nomination MOC slots, but sometimes can receive an appointment through the superintendents picks. Keep in mind you will have at least three MOC slots to compete for; your congressman, and two senators. Additionally, if you receive a nomination you, and are fully qualified, you will compete on the NWL. You did not mention what your application numbers are, but if you are highly competitive, fully qualified, and receive at least one nomination, there is a very decent chance you will get an appointment. I wouldn't let the athlete being in your district discourage you. Honestly, there may be three or four recruited athletes in your district. Look at the class profiles for the last few USMA entering classes, and work to put yourself in a premium position. Get your ACT scores up there, and be near the top of your HS class rank. Multiple Varsity team sports will help; team captain would help a ton. Student council or NHS officer spots, will score a lot. Do what you can. You have lots of time, and wont want to think about what could have been.

Actually the Academy MUST award an appointment based on WCS if the MOC submitted names on a competitive slate. If that is the case, then the Academy will appoint the candidate with the highest WCS from that particular slate.
 

Ag1999

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I will applying for the class of 2022 and consider myself a competitive candidate with strong academic and leadership scores and should do well on the CFA. My friend just recieved an offer to play football at WP. However, he holds no leadership positions and has a poor ACT composite in the low 20's and a poor GPA as well.We live in the same congressional district and attend the same high school. How could this affect my chance of receiving a nomination and appointment? Thanks.
I had a similar situation. WP wanted to recruit a friend of mine for soccer except he has decent SAT scores and some leadership positions. Many thought he would get in because he had the "entire package".

It's March now and he is academically DQ for WP and the coaches stop talking to him. They interviewed him once, said they would try to get him a LOA, never happened. Point being, don't worry about it, nothing may even come from it.
 
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