USMA Denied Thread

Hello everyone,
I received the TWE from admissions. It wasn't that bad as people have it out to be. Of course, admissions worded it in a way that it wasn't my fault, and that it was because of the amount of applicants. For some portion it is my fault; it's my fault for not being a good enough candidate. I don't know what I need to improve on, I have an idea but don't know which one I need to focus on more.
I have a Plan B, but it is not as elaborate. I am planning on going to an in-state university, but I've been so busy completing applications to other colleges and service academies that I didn't leave room for any scholarship apps. Any suggestions? I wasn't aware of the ROTC scholarship until late Janurary. I, nor my family, do not have a background in the US military and educations system. I myself was born in the US, so I'm aware of getting into a university but not supplemental funding from scholarships. Any advice will be helpful.
 

DS434745

New Member
Hello everyone,
I received the TWE from admissions. It wasn't that bad as people have it out to be. Of course, admissions worded it in a way that it wasn't my fault, and that it was because of the amount of applicants. For some portion it is my fault; it's my fault for not being a good enough candidate. I don't know what I need to improve on, I have an idea but don't know which one I need to focus on more.
I have a Plan B, but it is not as elaborate. I am planning on going to an in-state university, but I've been so busy completing applications to other colleges and service academies that I didn't leave room for any scholarship apps. Any suggestions? I wasn't aware of the ROTC scholarship until late Janurary. I, nor my family, do not have a background in the US military and educations system. I myself was born in the US, so I'm aware of getting into a university but not supplemental funding from scholarships. Any advice will be helpful.
Were you notified by a physical envelope? Or was it an email?
 

DrMom

5-Year Member
I am so sorry Wyc. Call the ROO at your ROTC unit and let him know you are on your way and will register.
There might be some campus based 3.5 money laying around to help you.
Also, ask this same question on the ROTC thread. There are two or three actual ROO's who participate in the discussions.
Best wishes with the rest of your senior year--and with ROTC. You may decide to reapply to USMA but you may also get to where you are going and love it.
 

BSCAR

Member
Hello everyone,
I received the TWE from admissions. It wasn't that bad as people have it out to be. Of course, admissions worded it in a way that it wasn't my fault, and that it was because of the amount of applicants. For some portion it is my fault; it's my fault for not being a good enough candidate. I don't know what I need to improve on, I have an idea but don't know which one I need to focus on more.
I have a Plan B, but it is not as elaborate. I am planning on going to an in-state university, but I've been so busy completing applications to other colleges and service academies that I didn't leave room for any scholarship apps. Any suggestions? I wasn't aware of the ROTC scholarship until late Janurary. I, nor my family, do not have a background in the US military and educations system. I myself was born in the US, so I'm aware of getting into a university but not supplemental funding from scholarships. Any advice will be helpful.
Were you notified by a physical envelope? Or was it an email?
I, too, would like an answer to that question.
 

BSCAR

Member
Hello everyone,
I received the TWE from admissions. It wasn't that bad as people have it out to be. Of course, admissions worded it in a way that it wasn't my fault, and that it was because of the amount of applicants. For some portion it is my fault; it's my fault for not being a good enough candidate. I don't know what I need to improve on, I have an idea but don't know which one I need to focus on more.
I have a Plan B, but it is not as elaborate. I am planning on going to an in-state university, but I've been so busy completing applications to other colleges and service academies that I didn't leave room for any scholarship apps. Any suggestions? I wasn't aware of the ROTC scholarship until late Janurary. I, nor my family, do not have a background in the US military and educations system. I myself was born in the US, so I'm aware of getting into a university but not supplemental funding from scholarships. Any advice will be helpful.
Go to a National Guard recruiter TOMORROW. There is a chance that, if you get everything in order, they will offer you a Minuteman scholarship, but the application deadline is Friday.

Failing that, join the National Guard. Most states' NG will pay for college, just be advised: if you aren't enrolled in ROTC you don't have non-deployable status. If your NG unit is called up to go to war you have to finish college some other time.
 
Hello everyone,
I received the TWE from admissions. It wasn't that bad as people have it out to be. Of course, admissions worded it in a way that it wasn't my fault, and that it was because of the amount of applicants. For some portion it is my fault; it's my fault for not being a good enough candidate. I don't know what I need to improve on, I have an idea but don't know which one I need to focus on more.
I have a Plan B, but it is not as elaborate. I am planning on going to an in-state university, but I've been so busy completing applications to other colleges and service academies that I didn't leave room for any scholarship apps. Any suggestions? I wasn't aware of the ROTC scholarship until late Janurary. I, nor my family, do not have a background in the US military and educations system. I myself was born in the US, so I'm aware of getting into a university but not supplemental funding from scholarships. Any advice will be helpful.
Were you notified by a physical envelope? Or was it an email?
I, too, would like an answer to that question.
It was a physical mail. I received it when I checked my mail. This is my second time applying. It's a complex story, I go to a 5 year high school, where the 5th year is optional to finish up an Associates degree. The school holds my HS diploma as a contract so they pay for the degree. I was already going to graduate last year with a HS diploma and Associate in Science, but decided to go for another degree just in case I don't like science, so I'm graduating with a diploma, adegree in science and arts.
I guess my efforts this year wasn't good enough for USMA. I hope for the best to the incoming class. I read somewhere that some Cadets dropout or choose not to go, which is confusing. I wish that if one of them feels like that they would consider how many people struggle for their place and would dive at that position at anytime, and will continue to move on.
 

mom3boys

10-Year Member
My advice (as my 2019 received the TWE on his first go round): Let things settle down at USMA...give them a month. Then contact your RC and say: Sir (or Ma'am, depending on who it is of course): I am planning to reapply to USMA. Can you please give me some guidance on how best to improve my chances for admission for 2022? They will respond. Then, do EVERYTHING you are told to do. Go talk to your school guidance counselor about scholarships. If you are first generation American, there's money for you out there. Contact the financial aid office of your plan B school. Contact the ROTC department. Find something great to do get involved with that you haven't done before so you can tell USMA all about it when you reapply next year. Most people take 5 years to get through college these days (w/ STEM majors). This is not a horrible thing...if accepted next year, you'll be older and more experienced with studying, prioritizing, etc. Good luck to you.
 

2020HD

Member
One of my plebe son's roommates the first half was a 20 year old and one of them in the second half is a 19 year old. Both went to a civilian college, did well, reapplied and were admitted. In other words, if you're determined to attend West Point, keep your shoulder to the wheel and it can still happen. Best of luck to you and thanks for your willingness to serve our country.
 

HumbleMom

New Member
My friends DD got involved in OSU ROTC as a freshman, and applied for a scholarship at the end of her freshman year. She was then awarded 3 years and she and her family are very happy. I believe there is a path for every American who wants to serve, may you find yours (and I hope you reapply, seeing many admitted re-applicants recently here in the SAF) . All the best.
 

UHBlackhawk

Member
One of my plebe son's roommates the first half was a 20 year old and one of them in the second half is a 19 year old. Both went to a civilian college, did well, reapplied and were admitted. In other words, if you're determined to attend West Point, keep your shoulder to the wheel and it can still happen. Best of luck to you and thanks for your willingness to serve our country.
My DD will be 20 when she starts R-Day.
 

adt98

Member
Hello everyone,
I received the TWE from admissions. It wasn't that bad as people have it out to be. Of course, admissions worded it in a way that it wasn't my fault, and that it was because of the amount of applicants. For some portion it is my fault; it's my fault for not being a good enough candidate. I don't know what I need to improve on, I have an idea but don't know which one I need to focus on more.
I have a Plan B, but it is not as elaborate. I am planning on going to an in-state university, but I've been so busy completing applications to other colleges and service academies that I didn't leave room for any scholarship apps. Any suggestions? I wasn't aware of the ROTC scholarship until late Janurary. I, nor my family, do not have a background in the US military and educations system. I myself was born in the US, so I'm aware of getting into a university but not supplemental funding from scholarships. Any advice will be helpful.
Did you receive a 3Q letter before the TWE and congrats ok the ROTC scholarship still an amazing option!
 

Jcleppe

5-Year Member
Go to a National Guard recruiter TOMORROW. There is a chance that, if you get everything in order, they will offer you a Minuteman scholarship, but the application deadline is Friday.

Failing that, join the National Guard. Most states' NG will pay for college, just be advised: if you aren't enrolled in ROTC you don't have non-deployable status. If your NG unit is called up to go to war you have to finish college some other time.
Be very careful going this route, if you accept the scholarship from the National Guard you will commission into the Guard with no chance of Active Duty. Make sure if you accept tuition assistance from the Guard that it does not tie you to the Guard, again with no chance at Active Duty. Make sure you talk to an AROTC Battalion ROO to look at all your options before running to a "National Guard recruiter TOMORROW".
 

Jcleppe

5-Year Member
I read somewhere that some Cadets dropout or choose not to go, which is confusing. I wish that if one of them feels like that they would consider how many people struggle for their place and would dive at that position at anytime, and will continue to move on
Try not to look at it this way or dwell on what others do, it will only make it more difficult.

Nobody starts the application process, gets an appointment, and starts at an Academy with the idea that they will drop out. Every applicant shared the same struggle as you during this process, all those selected were qualified applicants and earned their appointment. Nobody knows for sure ahead of time that they will succeed, if the Academy is the right place for them until they take that first step. Everyone starts with the same goal, for some it doesn't work out. There has been attrition at every academy, and ROTC as well for as long as they have been around and it will continue. Then Academy even gives more time then ROTC to make that final commitment, two years rather then one, they do this for a reason, an Academy/ROTC is not right for everyone and for most it takes some time to come to that decision. I doubt that anyone would go through the rigorous Academy application process with the thought "I'll just try it for a couple years and see if I like it"
 
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