USNA 2025 Waiting and....Waiting

CkzErz said:
I’ll relay a short story, while many of us continue to go crazy waiting.

Not too long ago, my son was corresponding with Mr. Mullen about something. The question was answered and Mr. Mullen included a “step away from the computer”. We wondered why he did that and said to each other, it’s not like you flooded his inbox or anything.

My husband suddenly looked at us with fear in his eyes and said, “oh my god, do you think can Larry Mullen see how many times I’ve logged into DoDMERB?!” We laughed and said well, if he can, the “step away from the computer” was certainly warranted!

Happy waiting everyone! Going to check two USNA portals and, of course, DoDMERB...
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LOL... similar thing happened one year at a parent/teacher conference we had. DW realized during the meeting that the teachers could see how many times per day (maybe per hour) she logged into their grading portal to check on the kids' grades each day. They did agree that it was better than never checking at all.

I am sure the audit logs on some of these academy portals would be the stuff of legends.
 
justme said:
LOL... similar thing happened one year at a parent/teacher conference we had. DW realized during the meeting that the teachers could see how many times per day (maybe per hour) she logged into their grading portal to check on the kids' grades each day. They did agree that it was better than never checking at all.

I am sure the audit logs on some of these academy portals would be the stuff of legends.
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When my Congressman sent out the email that nomination letters would be going out in the mail, I must’ve checked my portal at least 200 times in the following 3 days.o_O
 
justme said:
LOL... similar thing happened one year at a parent/teacher conference we had. DW realized during the meeting that the teachers could see how many times per day (maybe per hour) she logged into their grading portal to check on the kids' grades each day. They did agree that it was better than never checking at all.

I am sure the audit logs on some of these academy portals would be the stuff of legends.
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I’m just gonna hope they don’t have time to track us lol!
 
Capt MJ said:
LOA means Letter of Assurance, not appointment. LOAs are sparingly given to applicants assuring them of an offer of appointment if certain conditions are met.

Have you been offered a conditional appointment?
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So, this conversation has me confused. I'm hoping you (or someone else who knows How Things Work) can clarify or correct what I thought I knew but am now not certain:
Is an LOA the same thing as conditional appointment? I was thinking that an LOA was the official notification of conditional appointment. For instance, my DS received a letter in the mail saying he was guaranteed an appointment if all conditions were met. For him, there was an X by medical qualification, which makes sense because he's under waiver review. About the same time, I believe, his portal reflected his status as "conditional appointment." (Or he got an email to that effect. Somehow, he received electronic notification.) Anyway, we took that to be an LOA, and that we just have to wait to hear on his waiver. If I'm reading other posts correctly, waiver notification could come anytime between now and I-Day, so we have to be patient because the April 15th target isn't for waivers, but for admission decisions, and the "conditional appointment" essentially shows his admission decision. Is this the case? Thanks for your patience towards those of us who are new to this and struggling to understand the process!
 
CkzErz said:
I’m just gonna hope they don’t have time to track us lol!
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I have had the same thought :p. DD has an LOA and 2 noms. She is waiting on a medical waiver. I check her DODMERB portal a little compulsively...and maybe her USNA portal too 🤣. She has terrible reception at school and can't check much during the day. I assured her I am on it! If they track us I'd likely be at stalker level at this point!
 
Running out of things I can do in between each refresh of the portal. I go from the portal, to here, to making filters for all the different kinds of Naval Academy related emails, to rereading past emails, to refreshing the portal, to watching a naval academy youtube video, to going through the USNA25 Instagram, to looking at NROTC, to looking at NUPOC, to looking at enlisting options fro both marines and navy, then rinse and repeat. Portal refreshes are sprinkled throughout all of that alongside forum and email refreshes.:bounce1:
 
ImpossibleInc said:
Running out of things I can do in between each refresh of the portal. I go from the portal, to here, to making filters for all the different kinds of Naval Academy related emails, to rereading past emails, to refreshing the portal, to watching a naval academy youtube video, to going through the USNA25 Instagram, to looking at NROTC, to looking at NUPOC, to looking at enlisting options fro both marines and navy, then rinse and repeat. Portal refreshes are sprinkled throughout all of that alongside forum and email refreshes.:bounce1:
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Oh boy, now I think I understand the “step away from the computer” guidance we received. Especially if you are the candidate (not a parent), try some of the things that have been suggested here like additional gym time. It’ll use up minutes from your day and help with your fitness level. Read one of the books suggested on another thread or involve yourself in the ongoing bacon discussions on here. As a parent, I read the where to retire thread but that one isn’t so relevant to you! The reality is that I’m obsessed too, I often wonder if there is a limit to how many threads I can watch!
 
CkzErz said:
Oh boy, now I think I understand the “step away from the computer” guidance we received. Especially if you are the candidate (not a parent), try some of the things that have been suggested here like additional gym time. It’ll use up minutes from your day and help with your fitness level. Read one of the books suggested on another thread or involve yourself in the ongoing bacon discussions on here. As a parent, I read the where to retire thread but that one isn’t so relevant to you! The reality is that I’m obsessed too, I often wonder if there is a limit to how many threads I can watch!
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Yeah hopefully there isn’t a maximum thread watch limit. I’m participating in track so that has been a nice destresser
 
Regardless of the outcome, for most of you the time will fly and your next step in this journey will come too soon. Take Mr. Mullen's advice, step away from the devices and go spend time making memories with each other. The time flies and then time together becomes few and far between.
Trust me.
 
Lollyandpops2024 said:
I certainly understand all of the issues at hand and I really appreciate everything that admissions is doing and how difficult this year has been. I would gladly pay a deposit and forfeit it if an appointment is offered. However, for some it is not so easy. Our DS is currently in the DEP for USMC Reserves as that was his original plan B and his recruiter is anxious to send him down to Parris Island. He is waiting patiently for USNA as that is the Plan A but now he will be changing to a straight enlistment if the appointment does not come through. So, waiting much longer is not an option for DS as he needs to make a decision pretty soon and he is ready to get started with his Military career no matter which path. It is really hard to make any kind of plans and all I know is he is leaving sooner or later and I am still praying for USNA but will be a proud mom either way. Good Luck to everyone and lets hope the next few days we all get some news. I would just be happy knowing either way.
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Gonna be honest on this one... the recruiter can wait. Don’t let the recruiter pressure him. Your DS could end up with a Wait List offer. That could drag this out even longer. The recruiter will be fine if he ships in 2 weeks or 2 months.
 
gordt said:
Someone calculated it out (on a different thread for USNA) last week, there are around 460-480 appointments that still need to go out.
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I wouldn’t count on those numbers. Admissions won’t release those numbers. Also, remember, about 300 of those are to NAPS and Foundation prepsters. They usually get their appts late on the process, that is very standard.
 
One thing that hasn't been discussed or at least recently, is the wait list. Every year USNA appoints about 100 to the Wait List. And that means more waiting! That means waiting past the May 1st deadline. That means possibly waiting until June. That means possibly putting down a deposit, picking out dorms, and locking in Plan B. As the class firms up (medical waivers and acceptances are confirmed) the list will start to be cut. Generally very few are appointed off of the Wait List. Some years that number is near zero. I think last year was one of the larger years with somewhere around a dozen or so getting appointments.

Trust me, I remember waiting for my appointment many years ago. If the military is what you want to do, this process is part of learning how to hurry up and wait. Deal in the unknown. Your career will be full of big waits. If you think this wait is long, wait until you see how long Plebe Year feels like. You will wait for service assignment and then ship selection (or TBS dates or flight school dates, etc). Then its wait for your airframe platform, your submarine, your MOS assignment, etc. Then its what base am I going to. Then its what is your next assignment which might be selection for grad school, or career schools, MOS/career re-designation board, or many other things. Oh and then your next PCS orders... and by then you might have a spouse and a kid (or two). Now your spouse might have to quit their job and you are expecting your first child and have to move overseas while they are 6 months pregnant and your ship is scheduled to be deployed for the birth. You had orders in hand to Japan, those got changed 4 weeks later to Norfolk. As you can see, change and waiting are constants in the military. All these items (and many more) are very realistic for even a Junior Officer. As you progress in ranks, the waits get longer and have higher stakes... command, promotion to O-5 and beyond all get complicated generally by kids getting older and going to yet another school and another move. Everyone on here is a high achiever and to various degrees control freaks and planners (and I am not saying any of that is bad, its what got you to be competitive for a SA and will help as an officer). One thing in the military you learn very quickly... you learn to worry about what you can control and what you can't control, you let happen and wait. You prepare for any outcome and pray (if that is your thing) for the one you want. Good luck to all still waiting.
 
Ta11guy said:
Does anyone have a link for this? Or the name of the thread? Still waiting for any news and it would be bring me peace to see that.
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I think it was simply educated guess. Unfortunately I can’t find the thread, but it was someone extrapolating based on p/y situation and current year summary. I don’t think it was fixed for sure.
 
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Supersix00 said:
Not to go too deep but feeling somewhat of a spiritual journey as a parent. Can’t tell if I’m hoping/praying for the right thing or just what we want. Going back and forth daily on “trusting whatever happens is right...” and “cmon just give it to him...” I know it will make sense in the future. But in the grind, this period of uncertainty, it’s hard not to be selfish. And it sounds like that state of mind doesn’t end this year. Sorry if that was too much.
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I have completely felt the same way! Well worded! Not my will but thy will. And boy that can be a hard one. Easier said that felt on the heart sometimes.
 
USNAhopefulmom said:
So, this conversation has me confused. I'm hoping you (or someone else who knows How Things Work) can clarify or correct what I thought I knew but am now not certain:
Is an LOA the same thing as conditional appointment? I was thinking that an LOA was the official notification of conditional appointment. For instance, my DS received a letter in the mail saying he was guaranteed an appointment if all conditions were met. For him, there was an X by medical qualification, which makes sense because he's under waiver review. About the same time, I believe, his portal reflected his status as "conditional appointment." (Or he got an email to that effect. Somehow, he received electronic notification.) Anyway, we took that to be an LOA, and that we just have to wait to hear on his waiver. If I'm reading other posts correctly, waiver notification could come anytime between now and I-Day, so we have to be patient because the April 15th target isn't for waivers, but for admission decisions, and the "conditional appointment" essentially shows his admission decision. Is this the case? Thanks for your patience towards those of us who are new to this and struggling to understand the process!
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My DS has what I take to be LOA. It says, "...You are guaranteed an offer of appointment if your remaining admissions requirements are satisfactorily met..." Capt MJ would know better, but I was sort of under the assumption that an LOA and conditional appointment were roughly the same thing. DS is also only waiting on medical waiver and DoDMERB portal still says "under waiver review." He was sent an email reassuring him that everything was good and that they are still processing waivers. BUT - I think you are correct. Waiver issues could take quite a while still to work through the board - so we were not counting on knowing by the 15th at all. We are placing a deposit at plan B this week - and proceeding along both tracks for the moment.
 
I think it’s a fine distinction with the same outcome.
LOA, we assure you we will offer you an appointment if you meet these criteria.
Conditional, we are offering you an appointment now, and if you meet this condition, the offer becomes a firm one.

I don’t think an LOA requires a response of any kind.
Does the conditional require a response?
 
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