USNA Class of 2027 Waiting and Speculating

NavyBrazilUSA said:
My DS just got a email from MOC congratulating him on being accepted to USNA 27 !!! I am crying until now… the attached letter from USNA says tomorrow he‘ll see in the system. My grandpa was a general in the Brazilian Army, my uncle was a Brigadier General at Brazilian Air Force, Stanford Professor, and now my son will be an officer at the US Navy. I am forever grateful to this amazing Country. GO NAVY !!! BEAT ARMY !!!
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So exciting!!! Your wait and speculate time is over. Congrats to your son and your whole family!!!
 
NavyBrazilUSA said:
My DS just got a email from MOC congratulating him on being accepted to USNA 27 !!! I am crying until now… the attached letter from USNA says tomorrow he‘ll see in the system. My grandpa was a general in the Brazilian Army, my uncle was a Brigadier General at Brazilian Air Force, Stanford Professor, and now my son will be an officer at the US Navy. I am forever grateful to this amazing Country. GO NAVY !!! BEAT ARMY !!!
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Congratulations!
 
NavyBrazilUSA said:
My DS just got a email from MOC congratulating him on being accepted to USNA 27 !!! I am crying until now… the attached letter from USNA says tomorrow he‘ll see in the system. My grandpa was a general in the Brazilian Army, my uncle was a Brigadier General at Brazilian Air Force, Stanford Professor, and now my son will be an officer at the US Navy. I am forever grateful to this amazing Country. GO NAVY !!! BEAT ARMY !!!
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Congratulations!! I will do the same when my DS appointment letter comes in CIS. Can't wait for that moment.
 
Kentucky9 said:
Sounds like an excellent job by the admissions team
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I wouldn’t go there. On DD’s I-Day several years ago, the Supe said that 1200 plebes were inbound and that the goal was to graduate 1000. That’s a 17% attrition rate. He didn’t say when the attrition happens, but it seems reasonable that most of it happens before youngster year.

This does not mean admissions did a poor job. Unless we eventually learn that the graduating class was significantly below the norm in numbers, seems like admissions is doing its job just fine.

Funny…DD says it was often the mids who were the most hung-ho and sure of themselves who ended up DORing. So there’s that.
 
MidCakePa said:
I wouldn’t go there. On DD’s I-Day several years ago, the Supe said that 1200 plebes were inbound and that the goal was to graduate 1000. That’s a 17% attrition rate. He didn’t say when the attrition happens, but it seems reasonable that most of it happens before youngster year.

This does not mean admissions did a poor job. Unless we eventually learn that the graduating class was significantly below the norm in numbers, seems like admissions is doing its job just fine.

Funny…DD says it was often the mids who were the most hung-ho and sure of themselves who ended up DORing. So there’s that.
IronmanDaremo said:
<----- Yup. Totally understand that one.

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MidCakePa said:
I wouldn’t go there. On DD’s I-Day several years ago, the Supe said that 1200 plebes were inbound and that the goal was to graduate 1000. That’s a 17% attrition rate. He didn’t say when the attrition happens, but it seems reasonable that most of it happens before youngster year.

This does not mean admissions did a poor job. Unless we eventually learn that the graduating class was significantly below the norm in numbers, seems like admissions is doing its job just fine.

Funny…DD says it was often the mids who were the most hung-ho and sure of themselves who ended up DORing. So there’s that.
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I realize that attrition occurs everywhere in everything. As a father I’m impressed with the graduation rate and support of USNA to achieve it. In my biased opinion though an appointee not only represents themselves, and their district, but every candidate that is not appointed. To walk away or quit, without extreme circumstances, is about as selfish of an act that can be accomplished. I’m confident that although the admission team is far more versed than me, they can always improve screening for selfishness.
 
Kentucky9 said:
I realize that attrition occurs everywhere in everything. As a father I’m impressed with the graduation rate and support of USNA to achieve it. In my biased opinion though an appointee not only represents themselves, and their district, but every candidate that is not appointed. To walk away or quit, without extreme circumstances, is about as selfish of an act that can be accomplished. I’m confident that although the admission team is far more versed than me, they can always improve screening for selfishness.
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I am not sure if this is a healthy view.

There are laws and policies in place. The candidate appointed earned it.

There are many reasons why a candidate leaves. Is an injured midshipman selfish?

How would you suppose they quantify “selfishness?”

You assume your child wouldn’t leave if appointed?

You are making assumptions that aren’t fair to the midshipmen that don’t graduate. I am thankful that my son made it this far. Had he not made it for whatever reason, I do not believe anyone on his slate was a better candidate.

Also - what if the appointee on your child’s slate graduates with distinction? Or are you assuming candidates that don’t get in could have been selected on all slates in country?
 
Kentucky9 said:
I realize that attrition occurs everywhere in everything. As a father I’m impressed with the graduation rate and support of USNA to achieve it. In my biased opinion though an appointee not only represents themselves, and their district, but every candidate that is not appointed. To walk away or quit, without extreme circumstances, is about as selfish of an act that can be accomplished. I’m confident that although the admission team is far more versed than me, they can always improve screening for selfishness.
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I disagree. If someone doesn’t want to lead Sailors and Marines when they graduate, I want them gone. Staying is the selfish part. The young men and women who enlist to defend our nation deserve officers who are all in and want to be there. I have seen so many young men and women come to USNA for a variety reasons. I honestly care why they stay. I have heard it all, mom and dad made me, I didn’t want to disappoint everyone, they would buy me a corvette, they would give me my college fund in cash, it was my family legacy, I wanted to play football, I wanted to serve since I was 5, I want to fly jets, I want to be a Marine officer, and everything in between. When we commit to USNA it is with half the info. No matter how exposed and educated we are, we still have no idea what the fleet is like. We only know so much about USNA. Each year we get a better idea what that is like and our decision stay is a more informed decision. For nearly 20 years our grads knew the day they graduated the reality is they could land in X post training. That is reality. And I respect those that say, that isn’t for me. I want someone who is 100% telling their Marines to charge that hill. Because we owe that to our Sailors and Marines.
 
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Kentucky9 said:
“Winners never quit, and quitters never win”
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I know plenty of people who ‘quit’ USNA who are extremely successful. My ring dance date left USNA. Graduated Columbia and then Harvard, served in the reserves and is highly successful. He didn’t quit. He left for his reasons. BTW, none of our classmates had any issues with him leaving and many of us are still friends with him. It wasn’t the right fit for him.
 
NavyHoops said:
I know plenty of people who ‘quit’ USNA who are extremely successful. My ring dance date left USNA. Graduated Columbia and then Harvard, served in the reserves and is highly successful. He didn’t quit. He left for his reasons. BTW, none of our classmates had any issues with him leaving and many of us are still friends with him. It wasn’t the right fit for him.
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Well he did lose if he didn’t secure your hand!
 
Kentucky9 said:
I realize that attrition occurs everywhere in everything. As a father I’m impressed with the graduation rate and support of USNA to achieve it. In my biased opinion though an appointee not only represents themselves, and their district, but every candidate that is not appointed. To walk away or quit, without extreme circumstances, is about as selfish of an act that can be accomplished. I’m confident that although the admission team is far more versed than me, they can always improve screening for selfishness.
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I also GUARANTEE, that if it were your own child struggling, for whatever reason, you would support them through their challenges. And if they ultimately decide it’s not for them, I would suspect you would be thankful that they have the option to leave. Without being forced to stay. And the results of that.

Idk how much you want it as an 8th grader. Freshman year of college, is a HUGE time of growth and change. No way anyone can convince me that all 17 yrs olds absolutely know their destiny.

The SA’s have been at this a long time. They have a formula that works. Sure, it would be great to be able to see the future and have known out comes. For both SA’s and candidates. But that’s not reality and never will be. Over appointing, to allow for attrition, works. Someone else leaving has no effect on you as a candidate.
 
NavyBrazilUSA said:
My DS just got a email from MOC congratulating him on being accepted to USNA 27 !!! I am crying until now… the attached letter from USNA says tomorrow he‘ll see in the system. My grandpa was a general in the Brazilian Army, my uncle was a Brigadier General at Brazilian Air Force, Stanford Professor, and now my son will be an officer at the US Navy. I am forever grateful to this amazing Country. GO NAVY !!! BEAT ARMY !!!
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Congratulations!
 
Appointees to service academies are predominantly teenagers and young adults . They are making a huge commitment very few their age would ever think of and I echo the above sentiments that it is beneficial for all if they decide it’s not for them, to choose a different path . They should do so with support and concern, not criticism and disdain . I live in NY and have family who are NYS troopers who participated in the search for a missing USMA cadet who committed suicide several years ago . The pressure these young men and women are under is intense as it is , there is no reason to add unnecessary judgment to those who are frankly in my opinion, mature enough to realize they have a different life plan .
 
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