USNA Class of 2027 Waiting and Speculating

A little clarification on the waitlist appointments and MOC appointment slate.
For arguments sake an applicant gets waitlisted on April 17th. Said applicant received a nomination from congressman john smith. Congressman john smith ranks his own slate using the principle method. Said applicant who was waitlisted on the 17th was ranked #2 on Congressman smiths slate. Now on April 29th congressman smiths principle nomination declines the appointment.
Would the said applicant who was waitlisted and ranked #2 in the congressman smiths slate automatically get the principle nomination from congressman smith’s slate. Or
Might he never get the appointment
Or
Does the waitlist period change the rules on how the slates are handed out.
I had to read this 4 times.😂

See the reference link below, pages 5-6.

If the method used was principal nom + ranked slate, and the principal nom was fully qualified, was offered an appointment, and then declined, USNA would offer an appointment to the next ranked fully qualified nominee. and that will likely eventually become the one charged to the elected official. If there is a waitlisted candidate on the slate, it could be that candidate. Keep in mind just because an elected official ranks a slate a certain way, USNA, which sees the entire application, might rank candidates differently. USNA may choose to waitlist any candidate, presumably fully qualified, it chooses, and perhaps use another nom authority they control to charge the appointment to.

I am sure USNA Admissions has seen every variant and “what if” scenario, and will work through it with their usual methodical, intentional approach.

Interestingly, unlike USMA and USAFA, the statutory language for USNA is somewhat different in that they are not absolutely required to offer an appointment to the principal nom, even if fully qualified. They usually do, though.

 
It doesn’t affect it. Your son is competing on his member of Congress slates and in the overall competitive national pool.

Each year students from the same school, congressional district receive appointments.

The academies build in the ‘attrition’ that comes with applicants choosing other academies or paths.

They are taking time to build the best class that they can. It’s a complex jigsaw puzzle and only they know what the finished oi
It doesn’t affect it. Your son is competing on his member of Congress slates and in the overall competitive national pool.

Each year students from the same school, congressional district receive appointments.

The academies build in the ‘attrition’ that comes with applicants choosing other academies or paths.

They are taking time to build the best class that they can. It’s a complex jigsaw puzzle and only they know what the finished oi
Thank you for the response and information. What if they both have the exact same MOC nominations?
 
I have a question regarding appointments. I know someone that was awarded an LOA and appointment in November. This person attends the same high school as my child who is hoping for an appointment. This person will decline their appointment however they have not yet.
How does the delay to decline impact potential appointments from the same high school and district? Will an appointment slot become available after this person declines?
What @Heatherg21 said. Now that you have said same slate…

Applicants on the same slates getting appointments - one of the fully qualified ones will be charged to the elected official, other fully qualified candidates on that slate receiving appointments can be charged elsewhere to other nom authorities the candidate successfully applied to OR nom authorities the SA manages. What you don’t know is where the candidate with LOA and appointment in hand has noms and where the SA planned to charge the appointment to.

The delay in accepting or declining is immaterial. The choice is theirs until the deadline. The SAs always offer more appointments than they know will from decades of data will be accepted, so attrition planning is built in. If that person declines, and the SA planned to charge that appointment to a nom authority they control, then they have that flexibility back to use wherever needed. If there is no applicant from that slate yet charged to the MOC, than that space still exists, just as it did before.

You might want to go read the post pinned to the top of the Nominations forum.

The seats remaining can be very fluid, but as declinations finalize and the class puzzle is nearly built, then it becomes clearer (but not to those watching from the outside) how many seats are left.
 
I had to read this 4 times.😂

See the reference link below, pages 5-6.

If the method used was principal nom + ranked slate, and the principal nom was fully qualified, was offered an appointment, and then declined, USNA would offer an appointment to the next ranked fully qualified nominee. and that will likely eventually become the one charged to the elected official. If there is a waitlisted candidate on the slate, it could be that candidate. Keep in mind just because an elected official ranks a slate a certain way, USNA, which sees the entire application, might rank candidates differently. USNA may choose to waitlist any candidate, presumably fully qualified, it chooses, and perhaps use another nom authority they control to charge the appointment to.

I am sure USNA Admissions has seen every variant and “what if” scenario, and will work through it with their usual methodical, intentional approach.

Interestingly, unlike USMA and USAFA, the statutory language for USNA is somewhat different in that they are not absolutely required to offer an appointment to the principal nom, even if fully qualified. They usually do, though.

I had to read this 4 times.😂

See the reference link below, pages 5-6.

If the method used was principal nom + ranked slate, and the principal nom was fully qualified, was offered an appointment, and then declined, USNA would offer an appointment to the next ranked fully qualified nominee. and that will likely eventually become the one charged to the elected official. If there is a waitlisted candidate on the slate, it could be that candidate. Keep in mind just because an elected official ranks a slate a certain way, USNA, which sees the entire application, might rank candidates differently. USNA may choose to waitlist any candidate, presumably fully qualified, it chooses, and perhaps use another nom authority they control to charge the appointment to.

I am sure USNA Admissions has seen every variant and “what if” scenario, and will work through it with their usual methodical, intentional approach.

Interestingly, unlike USMA and USAFA, the statutory language for USNA is somewhat different in that they are not absolutely required to offer an appointment to the principal nom, even if fully qualified. They usually do, though.

only 4 times lol.
I guess what I was “simply” lol trying to ask is
If the person who was appointed in your MOC district declines after the waitlist has been formed is navy “likely” to go back and try to fill with an applicant from that MOC’s slate.

I hope you only had to read this two times.
 

only 4 times lol.
I guess what I was “simply” lol trying to ask is
If the person who was appointed in your MOC district declines after the waitlist has been formed is navy “likely” to go back and try to fill with an applicant from that MOC’s slate.

I hope you only had to read this two times.
Yes. Someone will be charged to the MOC.
 
Capt MJ. It looks like you responded to my next question further down the line. It sounds like the MOC will always have at least one person off their slate getting an appointment. That person could choose not to go to Iday I guess or a variation of other scenarios but it sounds like admissions will do their very best to ensure the moc has a candidate from his slate going into the academy on IDay
 
Capt MJ. It looks like you responded to my next question further down the line. It sounds like the MOC will always have at least one person off their slate getting an appointment. That person could choose not to go to Iday I guess or a variation of other scenarios but it sounds like admissions will do their very best to ensure the moc has a candidate from his slate going into the academy on IDay
Yes, the qualifier always being “fully qualified.”
 
 
Hi, I wanted to ask is it likely that USNA will mail the BFE before sending the email?
 
Hi, I wanted to ask is it likely that USNA will mail the BFE before sending the email?
Very unlikely. Emails and phone calls come before the BFE is mailed in almost all cases. It usually takes 1-6 weeks to receive the BFE.
 
Is that someone likely going to be a person that was nominated by that moc
Only someone from an MOC’s slate of noms can have their appointment charged to that MOC.

Any fully qualified candidates on an MOC’s slate can also receive offers of appointment that are charged to other noms they hold or to an SA’s nom authorities they manage.
 
Only someone from an MOC’s slate of noms can have their appointment charged to that MOC.

Any fully qualified candidates on an MOC’s slate can also receive offers of appointment that are charged to other noms they hold or to an SA’s nom authorities they manage.
I just wanna sincerely thank CaptMJ for her continued, knowledgeable, patient and amazing help that she gives day in and day out to all us “patiently” waiting parents and candidates!! Thank you so very much for your efforts! You are amazing and should be recognized and thanked directly!!!
 
I just wanna sincerely thank CaptMJ for her continued, knowledgeable, patient and amazing help that she gives day in and day out to all us “patiently” waiting parents and candidates!! Thank you so very much for your efforts! You are amazing and should be recognized and thanked directly!!!
Thank you for the kind words. In an age where we can look at our wrists and get instantaneous updates, the process can be crazy making. It’s all part of the test for applicants, of course. 😉
 
Only someone from an MOC’s slate of noms can have their appointment charged to that MOC.

Any fully qualified candidates on an MOC’s slate can also receive offers of appointment that are charged to other noms they hold or to an SA’s nom authorities they manage.
What if they nominate 1 person and they’re not deemed qualified? Then USNA can charge someone else to them right?

And what if that MOC is like, no way! If you don’t like my one nominee then leave my slot open this year and I’ll get you two good people next year.

Since we are all spending the last day of March dealing with 0.00001% scenarios I figured why not pile on and go all in. 😬
 
What if they nominate 1 person and they’re not deemed qualified? Then USNA can charge someone else to them right?

And what if that MOC is like, no way! If you don’t like my one nominee then leave my slot open this year and I’ll get you two good people next year.

Since we are all spending the last day of March dealing with 0.00001% scenarios I figured why not pile on and go all in. 😬
I am not certified at the Master Diviner How Many Angels Can Dance On The Head Of A Pin level, so I will gracefully step back from this precipice.

(If you are not familiar with the angels question, dive down the Google rabbit hole on it.)
 
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