USNA Class of 2028 Waiting and Speculating

[rvrratt1]

Wow, how strange. Glad you didn't tell him! What a roller coaster. Maybe just a data entry error on TD?

Right, I posted only because I haven’t read this before. I just went back to make sure I wasn’t seeing things and it reads Pending. Guess, we will sit back and enjoy the ride~Round 4.

 

[Sarasita]

Good morning from CA ~ just sharing my DS portal experience and I’m stumped in my tea leave reading. I’m the portal checker as he is currently emersed into military college life on PlanB NROTC-MO scholarship. He is the MOC’S primary and was Turned Down Monday morning, I didn’t say anything as he was completing FTX and frankly I want him to log in and or / receive the news via email himself. Well, being the portal checker I am, I just logged in and his status changed back to pending. Has this happened to anyone else?? (He is a reApplicant, waitlisted NAPS last year until mid June.)

This was an Uno reverse move by the admissions. I don't don't know what to think anymore

 

[Just Bee-cause]

Good morning from CA ~ just sharing my DS portal experience and I’m stumped in my tea leave reading. I’m the portal checker as he is currently emersed into military college life on PlanB NROTC-MO scholarship. He is the MOC’S primary and was Turned Down Monday morning, I didn’t say anything as he was completing FTX and frankly I want him to log in and or / receive the news via email himself. Well, being the portal checker I am, I just logged in and his status changed back to pending. Has this happened to anyone else?? (He is a reApplicant, waitlisted NAPS last year until mid June.)

Crazy! New twists thrown into the rollercoaster! Good luck to him!

 

[OldRetSWO]

Still kind of blowing my mind that the admissions system is still this antiquated after so many years of experience. This is my first experience with SA admissions so it’s a little shocking in contrast to other schools.

Antiquated how? Its not postal/snail mail and waiting for the letter to come kind of antiquated and having an app for it does not seem to be a wise use to scarce funds.
As for it being shocking compared to other schools, I'd say that if the pace of the admissions process is too hard to deal with then perhaps life as a Navy/Marine Corps Officer might really be a bridge too far.

 

[smb76]

Same, same, same for DS.

We are from Florida with DD portal still Pending. Has a medical DQ. Medical waiver granted for USMA, USCGA and USAFA. Exercising patience for sure.

My DS is also still pending in Florida and received an email to nominees from our MOC office earlier this week stating that they are still waiting on several admissions decisions from the service academies--and to update them if we hear anything first.

 

[USMCfam]

Still kind of blowing my mind that the admissions system is still this antiquated after so many years of experience. This is my first experience with SA admissions so it’s a little shocking in contrast to other schools.

Service academies are not antiquated. It is an extremely unique and personalized endeavor that has been happening for generations. Civilian colleges can use numbers, algorithms, etc to fill their seats. They are looking for students in programs, bodies in dorms, diversity on campus, and payees into their budgets. Service academies are choosing the future military officers to lead our armed forces in a variety of very specialized fields. They are looking for honor, duty, ethic, and excellence. Appointees raise their right hand and take the oath to serve their country on active duty from day one. It is not regular college.

So many posts on this forum are trying to reduce admissions chances to a numbers and rankings game. And while some of those metrics can be indicators, they are not deciding factors. The numbers just give some insight into what you know, how you learn, and what you’re ready for. It’s the interviews, recommendation letters, personal statements, and life experiences that flesh out the candidate. These are the things that help determine the leader they are and will be. Graduates of SAs leave their academies, commission, complete brief specialized schooling, and are immediately in leadership roles responsible for young lives, multi-million dollar equipment, and mission completion.

I think back to a young USNA grad who commissioned USMC. After TBS and moving to her first duty station, she immediately found herself deployed to Iraq in charge of a platoon of young Marines. On her very first mission they were hit by an IED and in an instant she was calling for cover, evacuating her wounded, recovering victims, and completing her mission. USNA and USMC were confident in the leader they chose, molded, and entrusted in that position. Her abilities depended on so much more than her GPA and ACT score. And USNA understands that and takes great care in creating each unique class every year. They honestly don’t care how civilian colleges do things.

 

[justdoit19]

Still kind of blowing my mind that the admissions system is still this antiquated after so many years of experience. This is my first experience with SA admissions so it’s a little shocking in contrast to other schools.

I guess it’s how you look at it. Personally, wearing my momma and BGO hats, I’m appreciative of the attention each candidate receives, in totality.

Post in thread 'USNA Class of 2028 Waiting and Speculating'
https://www.serviceacademyforums.co...28-waiting-and-speculating.91917/post-1019387

SA’s and the military are bureaucracies. Which are not known for efficiencies and economies of scale. They aren’t supply and demand, competitive economic systems.

 

[Malst0rme]

We only have an appointment list thread -- no a purge list. As soon as DS gets purged, I will create one!

In the application portal "my progress", there are some important factors such as DoDMERB qualified date, CFA qualified date, Nomination type and date received. USNA does not tell candidates if they are academically qualified but interestingly enough in the portal it lists Official Test Scores -- Not sure if it will help future applicants to have a bit more details

I think a purge list would be helpful if we included details like application date, nomination date, and passed/did not pass medical, that type of thing.

 

[Jsnv]

Prepare yourself for the biggest tea leaves reading yet:

My mother just got mail from Navy Federal Credit Union,

What does this mean for my application?

Great, now I have another place to check for any signs, clues, smoke signals or whatever. Before I run off to check my mail what district in TX?

 

[Jonyq]

Antiquated how? Its not postal/snail mail and waiting for the letter to come kind of antiquated and having an app for it does not seem to be a wise use to scarce funds.
As for it being shocking compared to other schools, I'd say that if the pace of the admissions process is too hard to deal with then perhaps life as a Navy/Marine Corps Officer might really be a bridge too far.

First off I’m a parent so I’m not the one applying thank God! DS is relaxed calm and collected, along for the ride and enjoying the total experience. My perspective is different with older kids in college and going through that and my personal college experience vs. this. I’m not complaining, just my perspective. I’m sure the process is completely different than other major universities, be them competitive or not.

 

[gniyji]

I think a purge list would be helpful if we included details like application date, nomination date, and passed/did not pass medical.

Okay, I will do that ! Some applicants have everything ready for decision (norm, 2Q) but have waited to the last day of purge. DS was notified the last day for his NASS application TD -- he had avoided scheduled swimming competition for NASS --but in the end, he got turned down.

 

[basketball101]

I think a purge list would be helpful if we included details like application date, nomination date, and passed/did not pass medical.

comparing people's timestamps for getting noms, CFA's etc is not going to help anyone out with deciding when they'll hear back. Nobody knows how they specifically go about it. Some people may have been in a less competitive slate, others in super competitive slates. You'll never fully know, so it's honestly not worth the time nor the effort. Trust me.

 

[A1Janitor]

So many posts on this forum are trying to reduce admissions chances to a numbers and rankings game. And while some of those metrics can be indicators, they are not deciding factors.

Not sure I buy into this fully.

What nobody knows is the numbers of the competition on any slate.

If a 1500 SAT valedictorian, starting captain on multiple sports, great leadership, etc - gets rejected - it isn’t necessarily true that some one with low numbers had some magical sparkle that caught the SA eye.

Rather, the top numbers might have been in a competitive district and was not the best candidate on the slate.

Meanwhile, a candidate with lower numbers won her slate - because she had the best numbers on that slate.

It’s a competition. Numbers matter in context of the slate competition.

 

[ARMARINE03]

Service academies are not antiquated. It is an extremely unique and personalized endeavor that has been happening for generations. Civilian colleges can use numbers, algorithms, etc to fill their seats. They are looking for students in programs, bodies in dorms, diversity on campus, and payees into their budgets. Service academies are choosing the future military officers to lead our armed forces in a variety of very specialized fields. They are looking for honor, duty, ethic, and excellence. Appointees raise their right hand and take the oath to serve their country on active duty from day one. It is not regular college.

So many posts on this forum are trying to reduce admissions chances to a numbers and rankings game. And while some of those metrics can be indicators, they are not deciding factors. The numbers just give some insight into what you know, how you learn, and what you’re ready for. It’s the interviews, recommendation letters, personal statements, and life experiences that flesh out the candidate. These are the things that help determine the leader they are and will be. Graduates of SAs leave their academies, commission, complete brief specialized schooling, and are immediately in leadership roles responsible for young lives, multi-million dollar equipment, and mission completion.

I think back to a young USNA grad who commissioned USMC. After OCS and moving to her first duty station, she immediately found herself deployed to Iraq in charge of a platoon of young Marines. On her very first mission they were hit by an IED and in an instant she was calling for cover, evacuating her wounded, recovering victims, and completing her mission. USNA and USMC were confident in the leader they chose, molded, and entrusted in that position. Her abilities depended on so much more than her GPA and ACT score. And USNA understands that and takes great care in creating each unique class every year. They honestly don’t care how civilian colleges do things.

Can you imagine the disappointment to get a TD from strictly a computer filtering "keyword" process?

 

[Waitandsee]

Not sure I buy into this fully.

What nobody knows is the numbers of the competition on any slate.

If a 1500 SAT valedictorian, starting captain on multiple sports, great leadership, etc - gets rejected - it isn’t necessarily true that some one with low numbers had some magical sparkle that caught the SA eye.

Rather, the top numbers might have been in a competitive district and was not the best candidate on the slate.

Meanwhile, a candidate with lower numbers won her slate - because she had the best numbers on that slate.

It’s a competition. Numbers matter in context of the slate competition.

Possibly, but It's really impossible to say that's true either. As all these facts or factors will never be disclosed. As you said, no one knows the numbers. It's all speculative.

 

[blinkus]

Additionally, other candidates who received appointments to other academies have to make their decisions by May 1, so I don’t know how that is going to work. I’m in this boat with a USMA app but holding out for USNA.

Due to FASFA issues, a majority has pushed back their decisions to May15th - June 1st.

 

[Holden100]

College admissions is a mystery. I don't agree that kids aren't getting personalized attention to their applications at civilian schools. My son was recently at an admitted students' day event, and when my husband was checking in he was asked for my son's name. She looked up and let him know she'd read his essays. This school gets upwards of 40k applications. Of course they have various admissions officers for areas of the country and world, similar to the academies. But this school released decisions to everyone a few weeks ago. We're a few days from the April 15th deadline and folks who haven't heard are understandably very anxious.

But I have learned with my older son, who will commission in less than a month and still doesn't have orders, get ready to pack your patience and just roll with it.

 

[USMCfam]

Not sure I buy into this fully.

What nobody knows is the numbers of the competition on any slate.

If a 1500 SAT valedictorian, starting captain on multiple sports, great leadership, etc - gets rejected - it isn’t necessarily true that some one with low numbers had some magical sparkle that caught the SA eye.

Rather, the top numbers might have been in a competitive district and was not the best candidate on the slate.

Meanwhile, a candidate with lower numbers won her slate - because she had the best numbers on that slate.

It’s a competition. Numbers matter in context of the slate competition.

I think it’s definitely different for nominations and more of a numbers game, but that is dictated by MOCs, not SAs. The MOC could literally pick names out of a hat or spin a wheel if they wanted. And their nom process is exactly that- “theirs”. But the appointment process is much more nuanced.

 

[Ihavenoidea]

We only have an appointment list thread -- no a purge list. As soon as DS gets purged, I will create one!

In the application portal "my progress", there are some important factors such as DoDMERB qualified date, CFA qualified date, Nomination type and date received. USNA does not tell candidates if they are academically qualified but interestingly enough in the portal it lists Official Test Scores -- Not sure if it will help future applicants to have a bit more details

There was a large purge on April 9th, but maybe there is another purge day coming.

How is a list of candidates that broadcasts their inability to get a appointment to USNA encourage, inform, or assistance anyone in getting a appointment? Seems more like sad gossip that useful information just as stating high school "stats" and "accomplishments" has no bearing on chances of getting a appointment.

You will get a appointment notice or a turned down notice soon. Wither someone else did nor not will not effect that decision or make you feel better or worse when you get the decision.

 

[futureusmcmom24]

We only have an appointment list thread -- no a purge list. As soon as DS gets purged, I will create one!

Haha! True, I’ve yet to see a purge list anywhere on this forum! I think I like it! That way everyone gets to add themselves to a list (if they so choose!).