Waivers
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Your question doesn't have the correct assumption. The medical waiver authorities @ the SAs do NOT meet on a scheduled basis and for the most part, do not meet at all. Pls re-ask your question as to what you're really trying to get at and I'll answer tomorrow night
Buff81, Mr. Larry Mullen is the Deputy Director at DoDMERB and will be able to answer all your questions personally. I read about your question over at the other site and Mr. Mullen is the gentleman that everyone is talking about over there. He's the guy, you found him! E mail him your question and sons info with only his last four digits in his Social Security and he'll have a solution like yesterday. Trust me, he'll blackberry you in your sleep, he's that fast!
You're right. I did assume a lot. I thought the SA's operated like the other boards that come our way during this process ( i.e the Admissions committee meets once/week;the ROTC scholarship board meets 1/month).
Please explain the waiver process once the academy decides to consider a waver for a DQ'd candidate until they grant/deny the waiver.
Also, the letter from USMA stating they were requesting a waiver said that, "USMA has a 90-day waiver process." What does this mean? I have a feeling that it does not mean that they give themselves 90 days to render a decision.
I wanted to keep this in the thread so that it could benefit others.
Please explain the waiver process once the academy decides to consider a waver for a DQ'd candidate until they grant/deny the waiver.
Also, the letter from USMA stating they were requesting a waiver said that, "USMA has a 90-day waiver process." What does this mean? I have a feeling that it does not mean that they give themselves 90 days to render a decision.
I wanted to keep this in the thread so that it could benefit others.
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Ok, we'll try a different approach........
Go back to the DoDMERB page. Look at the top of the page. Look at the top sticky regarding waivers. That is the general information I provide.
Regarding USMA's letter....I do NOT speak for them, but that's exactly what it means. They are informing folks that their waiver process might take up to 90 days, depending on what variables each applicant's case may present. There is no "one size fits all."
As my other posting have revealed, there's a lot of variablity in severity, frequency, effects on functionalbility, etc., hence, that's why I provide an outlet to answer individual cases. I'm travelling right now and it makes my responses a bit more delayed. But, as far as the Forums go, my accessibility to it is M-F, very late at night. Weekends and holidays, "generally," just a few hours.
Go back to the DoDMERB page. Look at the top of the page. Look at the top sticky regarding waivers. That is the general information I provide.
Regarding USMA's letter....I do NOT speak for them, but that's exactly what it means. They are informing folks that their waiver process might take up to 90 days, depending on what variables each applicant's case may present. There is no "one size fits all."
As my other posting have revealed, there's a lot of variablity in severity, frequency, effects on functionalbility, etc., hence, that's why I provide an outlet to answer individual cases. I'm travelling right now and it makes my responses a bit more delayed. But, as far as the Forums go, my accessibility to it is M-F, very late at night. Weekends and holidays, "generally," just a few hours.
Just_A_Mom
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Exactly right. It can take a while depending on many many factors. Not all waivers take 90 days but USMA could ask for additional testing and/or evaluation that could lengthen the process.
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What Mr. Mullen is trying to delicately to say is: if you have a specific question, ask it and he'll get you an answer. Don't ask some general question, hoping it will reinforce the answer you want about your specific situation because, in this area, there are NO general answers.
Here's an analogy: You want to know whether you will get a speeding ticket if you drive down Road A on Monday, January 20 at 4:00 p.m. at 70 mph (when the speed limit is 40).
However, instead of asking that question, you ask the following questions:
(1) Do the police typically patrol Road A for speeding?
(2) What is the max amount of speeding they typically allow over the limit before they give you a ticket?
(3) Are the police usually busy with school crossings Mondays at 4:00?
You get the drift. The answers to the above questions are interesting, but really have zero bearing on whether the police will give YOU a ticket for YOUR specific activity on a specific day and time. And the fact that YOU will get a ticket in the above scenario doesn't mean that someone driving 68 mph on the same road the very next day (or even the same day) will get a ticket. Every situation is specific.
In this case, Mr. Mullen is willing to give you a specific answer to your question, if you PM him with your exact question. This is a great opportunity that he's making available to candidates. Please take advantage of it.
Here's an analogy: You want to know whether you will get a speeding ticket if you drive down Road A on Monday, January 20 at 4:00 p.m. at 70 mph (when the speed limit is 40).
However, instead of asking that question, you ask the following questions:
(1) Do the police typically patrol Road A for speeding?
(2) What is the max amount of speeding they typically allow over the limit before they give you a ticket?
(3) Are the police usually busy with school crossings Mondays at 4:00?
You get the drift. The answers to the above questions are interesting, but really have zero bearing on whether the police will give YOU a ticket for YOUR specific activity on a specific day and time. And the fact that YOU will get a ticket in the above scenario doesn't mean that someone driving 68 mph on the same road the very next day (or even the same day) will get a ticket. Every situation is specific.
In this case, Mr. Mullen is willing to give you a specific answer to your question, if you PM him with your exact question. This is a great opportunity that he's making available to candidates. Please take advantage of it.
GENERAL INFORMATION
REGARDING MEDICAL WAIVER REQUESTS of DoDMERB MEDICAL DISQUALIFICATION
The following general information outlines the options available to you.
READ THE INFORMATION COMPLETELY AND CAREFULLY
The medical disqualification decision was based upon the results of your recent medical examination for a Service Academy, ROTC program, and/or the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences (USUHS) (Many applicants apply to multiple programs.). Any additional information you submitted will be included for review. E ACH ACADEMY AND/OR ROTC PROGRAM TO WHICH YOU HAVE APPLIED HAS BEEN INFORMED OF YOUR CURRENT DISQUALIFIED MEDICAL STATUS.
WAIVERS
A waiver allows applicants to enter programs even though they may have a medical disqualifying condition. The process for waiver consideration varies with each Academy, ROTC program, and USUHS. Waiver consideration may either need to be specifically requested by you or an automatic process. The process of each program is listed below:
If waiver action is initiated, there may be ADDITIONAL MEDICAL TESTS, EVALUATIONS, OR CONSULTATIONS that need to be resolved prior to determination of your final medical status. Your promptness in completing these requirements will expedite the final decision regarding your application.
If other programs inform us that you are a candidate, DoDMERB will automatically review your medical file again and notify both you and the program manager of the findings.
WAIVER PROCEDURES FOR EACH PROGRAM ARE AS FOLLOWS :
If other programs inform us that you are a candidate, DoDMERB will automatically review your medical file again and notify both you and the program manager of the findings.
U.S. NAVAL ACADEMY (USNA) – There is no need for you to request a waiver. If you are competitive for an offer of admission to the United States Naval Academy or one of the preparatory programs, you will automatically be considered for a waiver by USNA. The Admissions Department will contact you if there are additional requirements for the waiver process
REGARDING MEDICAL WAIVER REQUESTS of DoDMERB MEDICAL DISQUALIFICATION
The following general information outlines the options available to you.
READ THE INFORMATION COMPLETELY AND CAREFULLY
The medical disqualification decision was based upon the results of your recent medical examination for a Service Academy, ROTC program, and/or the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences (USUHS) (Many applicants apply to multiple programs.). Any additional information you submitted will be included for review. E ACH ACADEMY AND/OR ROTC PROGRAM TO WHICH YOU HAVE APPLIED HAS BEEN INFORMED OF YOUR CURRENT DISQUALIFIED MEDICAL STATUS.
WAIVERS
A waiver allows applicants to enter programs even though they may have a medical disqualifying condition. The process for waiver consideration varies with each Academy, ROTC program, and USUHS. Waiver consideration may either need to be specifically requested by you or an automatic process. The process of each program is listed below:
If waiver action is initiated, there may be ADDITIONAL MEDICAL TESTS, EVALUATIONS, OR CONSULTATIONS that need to be resolved prior to determination of your final medical status. Your promptness in completing these requirements will expedite the final decision regarding your application.
If other programs inform us that you are a candidate, DoDMERB will automatically review your medical file again and notify both you and the program manager of the findings.
WAIVER PROCEDURES FOR EACH PROGRAM ARE AS FOLLOWS :
If other programs inform us that you are a candidate, DoDMERB will automatically review your medical file again and notify both you and the program manager of the findings.
U.S. NAVAL ACADEMY (USNA) – There is no need for you to request a waiver. If you are competitive for an offer of admission to the United States Naval Academy or one of the preparatory programs, you will automatically be considered for a waiver by USNA. The Admissions Department will contact you if there are additional requirements for the waiver process