Which ROTC most likely to give tree nut DODMERB waiver?

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  1. MLparent

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    Daughter received scholarship offers from Air Force, Army and Navy. Which of these three is most likely to offer a waiver for a tree nut allergy? We are concerned about the length of time that it may take to have a final answer on the DODMERB waiver.
     
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    kinnem Moderator 5-Year Member

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    I think more depends on how bad the different programs will want her, although Army might be better.
     
  4. Falcon A

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    kinnem -- you might be right for Navy or USMC . . .

    A subtlety we discovered as we went through the medical waiver process was who the medical waiver authority actually was for each entity. For USNA, Navy ROTC, USMA, and AROTC, the medical waiver authorities are the Superintendents of the SAs or the Commanding General/Admiral for the ROTCs. The USMA/USNA/ROTC medical staffs "advise" those senior leaders, along with the admission staff members, so the Senior leader can weigh all the inputs and make a decision. Obviously some medical issues are an "easy no" but many are on the edge and it is left to the Senior to decide what is best for the Service. For USAFA and AFROTC it is different . . .

    I'm not a military pilot/aviator, but my friends that were/are within the Air Force had a saying . . . "Who is the most powerful military officer within the Air Force?" . . . most uninitiated would say "the Chief of Staff of the Air Force", or "the Commander Air Combat Command", or "Commander US Air Forces Europe", etc . . . my pilot friends would then retort . . . "Nope! . . . Its the Air Force Surgeon General/Flight Surgeon because he can take the Chief's / Commanding General's wings away!"

    For USAFA and AFROTC, the USAFA Flight Surgeon and the Surgeon General for Air Education and Training Command (AETC) are independent from the USAFA Superintendent or the Commander AETC. They don't advise. They decide . . . no appeal. I think this comes from the early culture of the Air Corps where flight crews would return to base after each mission, and then the Flight Surgeon was making the choice and would tell the commander who could/should fly the next mission the next day. For Army, USMC and Navy I think it was different. You are forward deployed in the line of fire, or you are on board your ship. The "commander" may have been advised by the "doc" whether so-and-so was fit for duty, but the commander may have had to make a decision counter to the medical advice given, because in the commander's view, the best choice for the unit was to employ all "capable" members.

    Others may have different experience or different opinions. This is how I have attempted to make sense this situation.
     
  5. brob

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    My understanding is that all three will initiate waiver process anyway.
     
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    Wait... So I cannot refute a "Waiver denied" by the Air Force ROTC??
     
  7. Falcon A

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    If your waiver is denied, you should definitely contact them and ask how to appeal. If there is a process for your condition, they will tell you. My comment about “no appeal” should be taken in the context that you can’t appeal to the SA Supt or the ROTC Commanding/Admiral. If you appeal you are appealing directly to the AF Medical staff and they are the Final authority.
     
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    kinnem Moderator 5-Year Member

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    That's my understanding as well, but initiating the waiver process is not granting a waiver.
     
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    True, the reason I stated that is because, even though the parent did not say so, I wondered if there was thought being given to which branch they should select to try to get the waiver approved. My point was DD will have a chance at all of them through no effort on her part.
     
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    Thanks. The thought was if she does not receive the waiver by may 1st and has to make a decision, is she better off choosing the navy or army scholarship. We heard that Air Force is the most difficult waiver to receive.


     
  11. Falcon A

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    Our experience is that the AF will only give a waiver if can prove via an allergist supervised “nut challenge” that you no longer have any sensitivity. Hives or rash during the test disqualifies you with the AF.

    We have no experience with the Navy

    The Army has given tree nut allergy waivers.

    Best wishes to you. and your DD and many thanks to her for her willingness to serve.
     
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    MLParent - That makes sense. Do any of her schools offer more than one branch?
    From what I have read and experienced, and from what others are reporting here, it seems that Army is most likely to grant the waiver. Congratulations on your DD on winning three scholarships! And, best wishes on the waiver process.
     
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