NO AFROTC ICSP or 2014 Field Training???

Sorry in advance if this is a dumb question...

If an elec engineer wants to try to go rated but doesn't make it, are they disenrolled - or can they then change to technical? I admit I don't really understand how it works and I might be confusing this with AROTC threads.
 
I think that you can then go for a tech slot. I'm not entirely sure how everything works, but the one point they make is that if you're a non-tech and you volunteer for rated and are selected and then you decide you don't want rated, you'll most likely be disenrolled. It says if you volunteer for rated and then are selected, you'll be required to meet the normal rated boards in your AS300 year. However, Electrical Engineering is one of the critical majors so they might not even let you go rated. Hope that helps.
 
Yes...helpful. The probability that an EEng cannot go rated is why I wondered what would happen if they try
 
afrotc16, thanks for the info, very helpful! Possibly 5 different boards for EA competition/selection, WOW?
 
Thank you for the good info. I have a meeting at my det in the morning, I guess it will be the same news! A bit concerned as I am an non-tech major looking for a rated slot.
 
natehanibal said:
Thank you for the good info. I have a meeting at my det in the morning, I guess it will be the same news! A bit concerned as I am an non-tech major looking for a rated slot.
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Let us know when you hear something! None of this will effect me personally, but I know a lot of people that would love to know what you hear :smile:
 
For the last few yrs. EE has been critical manning, and I believe I read somewhere that they were only releasing @5% of all EEs to go rated. It may have been higher, but I recall it was still a low amount.

Either way they won't disenroll him, they will just give an EE job for his AFSC.
 
afrotc16 said:
So I'm an AS200 and at my det, we just got an email yesterday afternoon from our commander about the EA selection. Apparently (if I am correctly deciphering the ARMS message he attached) there will be four separate boards meeting:

1. Technical
2. Foreign Language
3. Nurse
4. Non-tech
5. Possibly rated (possibly because this is not the actual rated board, just the board to get an EA which will allow you to go rated).

We were told we have to decide which board we were going to go up for by 22 Feb. I'm most likely going Tech since I'm a Mechanical Engineering major.

The boards are supposed to meet 11-14 Mar 2014 and results will be released on 22 Mar.

Oh we got the dates for FT 2014 too:

Max 1: 21 May - 13 June
Max 2: 4 June - 27 June
Max 3: 18 June - 11 July
Max 4: 2 July - 25 July
Max 5: 16 July - 8 August
Max 6: 30 July - 22 August

Anyway, hope this helps and let me know if you have any questions.
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undflyboy said:
Let us know when you hear something! None of this will effect me personally, but I know a lot of people that would love to know what you hear :smile:
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We were given exactly the same options and information as afrotc16 posted. It is going to be a tough one this year, but I guess more of a challenge to get to Field Training. I had to sign a memo and confirm that I will be going for the rated board. Most cadets who were unsure have until after christmas to confirm which board they will be going for.

Hope this helps!
 
Curious, how soon after Xmas, by Dec 30th or the day before they return to school.

I would assume the det. is not thrilled with this option, because it is adding in another tier for 200's. This is the same time of the yr. that 300's are being boarded for rated. 400's are getting their assignments, and ready for commissioning.

Of course it may not be adding another tier. They may just separate them into the 5 piles instead of 1 giant pile, but that may change how they will rack and stack them for their recs. The number 10 cadet within the det., may become the number 1 non-tech.

My mind is pounding just trying to figure out how they will do all of this.
 
My DS said that his cadre confirmed today what afrotc16 posted earlier with one exception. Cadre said that there would not be a Max 6.
 
That is interesting. About 2 or 3 yrs ago, they had 1 yr group that they canceled Max 6, and increased the class size for each Max. The following yr they went back to 6. Now the question would be for me, are they intending to increase the class size and eliminate 1 class. Or are they going to keep the smaller class size, but have less students, thus no need for 6.
 
Good question, probably won't know the true answer until March. But just speculating, with the reduction of AFSC slots for Y13 and Y14 recently announced, I would bet on the latter. But I hope I am wrong because my DS will be one of those 200's competing for an EA slot this year.
 
What if find interesting about this is that we have heard nothing from the Navy/MO folks here. AROTC and AFROTC are doing things to reduce AD slots, move folks to NG/reserve and even forgive service requirements. Anybody heard what if anything the Navy intends to do?
 
Has NROTC released their career assignments yet? If you look at AFROTC and when they found out about the reductions, it was @ the same time assignments.
 
Not sure if this warranted a new thread or not...

Going with the presumption that FT slots this year will be extremely competitive.......I am interested in knowing if coming from a detachment that is a current Right of Line Award recipient is something that is recognized when being ranked at the national level?

I do not know which detachments were awarded either the best small or medium size detachments this year... but Detachment 157 has won back to back Right of Line awards for best large detachment. Does this award hold any value or give any edge to it's cadets while filling those EA slots?
 
ERAU, I don't believe a cadets Det ranking/awards is a factor in EA selection. From my understanding, EA selection is based on a cadets national OML derived from their CC ranking, cGPA, ACT/SAT, and PFT. Hopefully others more knowledgable than myself will chime in though.
 
ERAUMattmom said:
Not sure if this warranted a new thread or not...

Going with the presumption that FT slots this year will be extremely competitive.......I am interested in knowing if coming from a detachment that is a current Right of Line Award recipient is something that is recognized when being ranked at the national level?

I do not know which detachments were awarded either the best small or medium size detachments this year... but Detachment 157 has won back to back Right of Line awards for best large detachment. Does this award hold any value or give any edge to it's cadets while filling those EA slots?
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The Right of Line award doesn't help on a cadet's chance of getting an EA slot.
 
I am not so sure I agree Alpha.

CoC's are O5/O6s they have spent yrs writing OPR/PRFs, and know how to write impact statements for promotion boards.

Here is a thread as an example
http://www.serviceacademyforums.com/showthread.php?t=34860
Bullet said:
"Varsity Offensive Line starter for football; senior leader and impact player, instrumental in his team's first ever State Championship" (Action, Impact, Result)
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Flieger said:
Gee...

Can you tell Bullet has written more than a few OPRs/EPRs?
(His "bullet" matched mine almost verbatim...scary!)
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Both Bullet and Flieger were ADAF for 20+ yrs., retired as O5 and O6 respectively.

SFT selection is AFROTC's promotion board in its' own way.

A CoC's rec accounts for 50% of the score. I wouldn't doubt that they will find a way to place bullets in regarding their cadets are in a det that is nationally ranked.

That being said there is a caveat. Being just a cadet in the det. with no leadership to place in the rec is not going to help the cadet just because they are in the det. Their rack and stack will still matter. Plus, they will also see positions held in the det., thus, stating the national award may not be as important as you may think, which is where I agree with Alpha.

However, if they can write an impact statement on why they were an integral part on being awarded Right of Line, than IMPO it is going to register with the board when they award points for the CoC portion. The selection board consists of members that understand certain key words/statements.
~~ There is a difference between these three statements that the board members understand, but most people do not realize the nuance from a scoring level.
~ My top cadet
~ One of my top cadets
~ Top 10% of my cadets.

Each one says something positive, but each statement acknowledges the level of their support differently.

JMPO, that and 0.019854 cents gets you nowhere.
 
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So basically, as far as getting into SFT, the possible advantage would be reserved to those cadets who actually don't need any advantage because of their already high ranking.

With over 80 AS200's in the detachment its definitely all in the wording...

Cadet is top third in the highest ranked large detachment in the nation certainly sounds much better than "ranked 26th" or

Cadet is in middle third of the highest ranked large detachment in the nation.
VS
Ranked 52
 
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