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What's the lowest ACT/SAT score you have heard of anyone having that received an ARTOC scholarship in recent years?
 
Mom79Texas said:
What's the lowest ACT/SAT score you have heard of anyone having that received an ARTOC scholarship in recent years?
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I think I saw a youtube video of an ROTC scholarship presentation... the kid had like a 3.6 GPA and a 26 ACT

I THINK... not 100% sure
 
Don't read anything into any changes in regard to Boarded or Boarded U/C. The only change that will matter is whether you are listed as a winner and that will change once they have completed all the input and everything has been approved.

As far as the IT department, I think you all seem to think that there is this large IT Dept. filled with people doing nothing but handling ROTC Scholarships, not the case. This is a small number of people that do this work and it is just part of the work they do. There is no way to second guess or predict when the results will be posted. If you've been around these boards for a while you'd remember when it sometimes took months for the results to come out. There are a lot of factors that can delay or complicate the process. Be Patient.

Just as a side note, this is only the beginning of playing the waiting game and this is probably the easiest one. Once you start ROTC and then on to the regular Army, you will always seem to be waiting for something, and it will never come on time. Best to get used to being patient and realize that it will eventually come.
 
Mom79Texas said:
What's the lowest ACT/SAT score you have heard of anyone having that received an ARTOC scholarship in recent years?
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Does it really matter, will it effect whether you receive a scholarship?

On top of that, knowing the lowest ACT/SAT score only gives you one very small part of the total application. Stop trying to second guess every detail, but just for reference if you have to ask, my younger son received a first round 4 year to 4 schools and his ACT was 24, like I said these scores are only one small part of the total equation.
 
Jcleppe said:
Does it really matter, will it effect whether you receive a scholarship?

On top of that, knowing the lowest ACT/SAT score only gives you one very small part of the total application. Stop trying to second guess every detail.
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Well I am a high school teacher and my students are asking b/c it's a lot of work to apply. So thanks for your advice, but I think it's good to know your odds before going through the lengthy process. So yes, it DOES MATTER!
 
Mom79Texas said:
Well I am a high school teacher and my students are asking b/c it's a lot of work to apply. So thanks for your advice, but I think it's good to know your odds before going through the lengthy process. So yes, it DOES MATTER!
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I get that but I also understand Jcleppe is saying. We can’t sit here and pick everything apart and think the lowest score we’ve heard and GPA we’ve heard is the minimums and such. Sure to an extent it may matter but ultimately it’s a matter of everything, the whole person concept. Grades, Test Scores (SAT or ACT), Extracurriculars, essays everything in general. We never know who they may choose. If your students want to apply I’d say the best advice is to just simply encourage them and tell them to work hard, if it’s their passion if this is truly their goal they’ll apply. So I’d say leave it at that. For everyone who gets it congrats. They all clearly earned it for a reason!
 
Mom79Texas said:
Well I am a high school teacher and my students are asking b/c it's a lot of work to apply. So thanks for your advice, but I think it's good to know your odds before going through the lengthy process. So yes, it DOES MATTER!
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That's the problem, a student may ask this question and hear from some that if you don't have a 27 ACT or higher you are below the average. This student may not even apply because they feel they have no shot because they have a 25 ACT. This is why the process is about the whole person, Academics/Leadership/Athletics, not just a test score.

A better question to ask is what's minimum ACT/SAT score will I need to get the max points in the interview, What score would hurt me when it comes to points.
Knowing the lowest ACT/SAT, really doesn't matter.
 
I am well aware that all the factors matter. However, knowing odds when advising students is also highly beneficial when students consider undertaking these applications. We can agree to disagree. I have some students that struggle to obtain the minimum 19. Since some of you know everything, why are you on here? I didn't ask your opinion on whether or not I am worrying or second guessing or whether I should or not. My questions was, what the lowest score was you have seen obtain the scholarship.
 
Mom79Texas said:
I am well aware that all the factors matter. However, knowing odds when advising students is also highly beneficial when students consider undertaking these applications. We can agree to disagree. I have some students that struggle to obtain the minimum 19. Since some of you know everything, why are you on here? I didn't ask your opinion on whether or not I am worrying or second guessing or whether I should or not. My questions was, what the lowest score was you have seen obtain the scholarship.
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I too am a high school teacher. One of the first kids I helped through this process ended up with a 3.01 GPA and ~1150 SAT. Looking at just that, there is no way I would have thought he would get a 4 year to Embry-Riddle. Though his scholar score was not outstanding, he made up for is in the leadership and athletic portion of the whole person score. He went to ERAU and finished at the top of the OML at his school and very high nationally. He got everything he asked for when he commissioned. Though test scores and GPA are an indicator, I have also seen students with 3.9 GPA and 1350 SAT not get an offer. What most kids do not understand, even though they can't open up their portal until the end of their junior year, the application process starts the moment the graduate 8th grade. You can't build your resume in a year. Everything you do in HS can help your chances.
 
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Renegade13 said:
I too am a high school teacher. One of the first kids I helped through this process ended up with a 3.01 GPA and ~1150 SAT. Looking at just that, there is no way I would have thought he would get a 4 year to Embry-Riddle. Though his scholar score was not outstanding, he made up for is in the leadership and athletic portion of the whole person score. He went to ERAU and finished at the top of the OML at his school and very high nationally. He got everything he asked for when he commissioned. Though test scores and GPA are an indicator, I have also seen students with 3.9 GPA and 1350 SAT not get an offer. What most kids do not understand, even though they can't open up their portal until the end of their junior year, the application process starts the moment the graduate 8th grade. You can't build your resume in a year. Everything you do in HS can help your chances.
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Well that's exactly why I asked the questions! It's nice to share examples like that with my CTE students...thank you!
 
Renegade13 said:
I too am a high school teacher. One of the first kids I helped through this process ended up with a 3.01 GPA and ~1150 SAT. Looking at just that, there is no way I would have thought he would get a 4 year to Embry-Riddle. Though his scholar score was not outstanding, he made up for is in the leadership and athletic portion of the whole person score. He went to ERAU and finished at the top of the OML at his school and very high nationally. He got everything he asked for when he commissioned. Though test scores and GPA are an indicator, I have also seen students with 3.9 GPA and 1350 SAT not get an offer. What most kids do not understand, even though they can't open up their portal until the end of their junior year, the application process starts the moment the graduate 8th grade. You can't build your resume in a year. Everything you do in HS can help your chances.
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My older DS had a 3.8 and a 28/1230 ACT/SAT, tons of leadership, and a phenomenal athlete. He applied to the second board was boarded and got a 3-year 3rd board. Currently at USMA top 25% of his class, top 1% in physical fitness. He started his leadership profile in the 6th grade as school president, which then was a catalyst for 7th and 8th-grade class president and so on. My twins also started their leadership profiles in the 6th grade following the same route as their older brother. Each year builds on the last.
 
Mom79Texas said:
I am well aware that all the factors matter. However, knowing odds when advising students is also highly beneficial when students consider undertaking these applications. We can agree to disagree. I have some students that struggle to obtain the minimum 19. Since some of you know everything, why are you on here? I didn't ask your opinion on whether or not I am worrying or second guessing or whether I should or not. My questions was, what the lowest score was you have seen obtain the scholarship.
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Some of us are here because we can be. We simply responded to your comment. With all respect, it’s not that deep. It was a simple response we gave you. I’m a student who has applied for this scholarship and I don’t have very high standardized test scores, so from my perspective I don’t really like to seek out what was the lowest score I’ve seen obtain the scholarship, rather I understand they have minimums, 1000 SAT and 19 ACT. I’m above that but I personally feel like from the perspective of a student of course let them know what the required minimum score is, and simply encourage them to strive for the highest possible score they can obtain. I feel like being told I must achieve a very high score or “here’s the lowest one I’ve heard obtain a scholarship” isn’t necessarily helpful nor encouraging.
If it’s their passion to serve their country and obtain this scholarship and to strive for this, I personally don’t like being compared to other or comparing myself to others. Just be yourself, participate in Extracurriculars that make you happy, and do the best you can on your Standardized tests.
i believe that is the greatest thing you can tell your students.
 
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