moho
Pilot, artist, USNA '27
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Nice profile photo.WA 09 - Congressman Smith
Nice profile photo.WA 09 - Congressman Smith
Are you implying the ones admitted aren’t future great leaders and assets?I'm not going to say much more than this, but I think that the current officer medical ascension process the U.S. has is a national security problem. I have seen so many future great leaders and assets disqualified for things that weren't true or didn't even meet the criteria of what disqualified them. Now obviously these are anecdotes, but I have seen so many of these that it is highly unlikely all of them are not legitimate cases of an inefficient, underfunded, understaffed process throwing away talent to the private sector.
No, not at all- never implied that. I am talking about those who don't make it through, not those who do.Are you implying the ones admitted aren’t future great leaders and assets?
There are legal limits to the number admitted. You suggest there is a national security interest. It is illogical to me.No, not at all- never implied that. I am talking about those who don't make it through, not those who do.
If officer ascension programs are competition, we are robbing the DoD of talent by unnecessarily DQing candidates over things that aren't true. Not to mention changing the courses of lives unnecessarily. I personally haven't had any issues with them, but I have seen some cases over my past two years in an officer ascension program that blew my mind how inefficient the process was.There are legal limits to the number admitted. You suggest there is a national security interest. It is illogical to me.
The ones with dqs are competing with other great candidates. There are plenty of great candidates and future leaders that aren’t dq’d that aren’t offered an appointment.
My experience was DoDMERB was excellent. They are by the book.
Very untrue. We were not given a chance to dispute the findings. Please speak to what you actually know, Gross incompetence is what it was.@moho
It seems to me that you are making assumptions and reaching a conclusion based on unverified, anecdotal reports from individuals with no background or training in the subject matter that is the topic of debate.
DODMERB has no incentive to disqualify candidates arbitrarily or for illusory causes. DQs are based on the candidates' statements and/or data contained in their medical histories. DODMERB doesn't create conditions out of whole cloth.
Moreover, it is the appointing authority that makes the final determination as to the candidates' qualification. There are numerous points in the process at which the candidates can dispute findings and submit additional documentation.
I am sure that some individuals do not pass the medical "Q" each year who would actually be fine, just as some academically qualified individuals also miss out.
The bottom line is that there are more qualified candidates than there are slots. That does not create a national security issue. Actually the opposite is true. Accepting borderline candidates would increase the risk, rather than decrease it.
I have no doubt you are frustrated.ATTN CAPTAIN MJ or ANYONE WHO CAN HELP:
So we just got updated from waitlist to medically dq. Which means he must have gotten selected that they tried to process his waiver. Worst part is , he didn’t have a recurrent or chronic skin condition. He had one time contact dermatitis . Treated once and never returned. Dodmerb had cited something from the manual saying that since this was a chronic or recurrent issue, that it needed to go to waiver. I received a very unprofessional and rude response from Larry at Dodmerb when I pointed out that this wasn’t chronic or recurrent . They never even asked for supporting docs as they did with other items. Just went right to requiring waiver . I sent the letter from his derm to them reaffirming that this was a one time issue from dish soap at a commercial kitchen . Try why never sent it to Navy med . We got a med disqualified notice from academy today. I sent a letter and his med note to my congressman, but does anyone have a contact at the academy to medical? If you have an actual condition that fits the criteria or you just don’t have the academic background to be admitted …that’s one thing. But he’s perfectly healthy and this should have never been an issue.
Sorry to hear...ATTN CAPTAIN MJ or ANYONE WHO CAN HELP:
So we just got updated from waitlist to medically dq. Which means he must have gotten selected that they tried to process his waiver. Worst part is , he didn’t have a recurrent or chronic skin condition. He had one time contact dermatitis . Treated once and never returned. Dodmerb had cited something from the manual saying that since this was a chronic or recurrent issue, that it needed to go to waiver. I received a very unprofessional and rude response from Larry at Dodmerb when I pointed out that this wasn’t chronic or recurrent . They never even asked for supporting docs as they district with other items. Just went right to requiring waiver . I sent the letter from his derm to them reaffirming that this was a one time issue from dish soap at a commercial kitchen . Try why never sent it to Navy med . We got a med disqualified notice from academy today. I sent a letter and his med note to my congressman, but does anyone have a contact at the academy to medical? If you have an actual condition that fits the criteria or you just don’t have the academics background to be admitted …that’s one thing. But he’s perfectly healthy and this should have never been an issue.
I have no doubt you are frustrated.
Initiating a Congressionsl inquiry is certainly available to all, and will require an investigation. In that same vein of nuclear last-stand options, your son could compose a letter directly to the Dean of Admissions, laying out the facts in a calm, professional manner, asking for a pause and reconsideration of key factors and his help in coordinating with the medical people involved. Your son can even ask to speak to the Dean.
So we need to contact waiver doc or how does that work ?Sorry to hear...
We went through with this during '25. We did have a plan b ready locked and loaded. This is our experience only... regulars here think it's nuts. The waiver doctor at USNA comes in once a week. I think the doc reviews all the waivers in his inbox. Doc's decisions are then disseminated to candidates. Any communications to Mr. Mullen must be followed by
Sorry to hear...
We went through with this during '25. We did have a plan b ready locked and loaded. This is our experience only... regulars here think it's nuts. The waiver doctor at USNA comes in once a week. I think the doc reviews all the waivers in his inbox. Doc's decisions are then disseminated to candidates. Any communications to Mr. Mullen must be followed by a formal letter via postage stamps. We did this to ensure there's no misunderstanding. In addition, we cc'd other assistants at DODMERB. Again this is only our experience... Any
flaks are welcome.
Again this is just our experience from '25. We did try to reach the waiver doc through admissions and that's how we found out about the weekly review. From the posts above, congressional and reapplication are options. If reapplication, lessons learned are to be aggressive with med disqualification.So we need to contact waiver doc or how does that work ?
So we just got updated from waitlist to medically dq. Which means he must have gotten selected that they tried to process his waiver.
I don't check his portal, but my DS seems to be in that situation. He is on the waitlisted but will still need a medical waiver that has not been requested.I have heard anecdotally on here that waiver requests are only processed if that candidate definitely would get appointment offer as this post would indicate. But, the official guidance, I believe, is for ones "Competitive" for appointment.
Are there other waitlistees still waiting on waivers to even been requested? (via the letter stating such) It seems to me that USNA would already be looking over those candidates' waiver options in case there is a late spot available., and not wait until they move from WL to LOA.
Also, Navyfly73, I am sorry this is so frustrating. One thing I am learning (however slowly) as a new military parent is that the decisions of the service have to be made for the overall service and not per individual, however frustrating and individually unfair they may be.
My DS' medical waiver was denied on the 1st or 2nd of this month. I just picked up a TWE from the post office (haven't opened it). So I believe that would be a yes. --While that closed one door, he will be attending USAFA instead so all is not lost.Does anyone know if they are sending official TWE's via the postal service?