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navy4040

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Hello, I have a quick question about USNA admitting/denying students. Do they deny student prior to the April 15th deadline, or do they only accept prior to April 15th? If so, are your chances of getting in lower if you are waiting until the 15th of April to hear back? Also, where I live I will not hear about my nomination until early January from my congressman, so are my chances of hearing back from USNA higher after my nomination is received?
 
One answer I know is you have to have a nomination to get an appointment...so until one shows...that's when you *may* hear regarding an appt or rejection.
 
navy4040 said:
Would you say it is rare for someone to get accepted on April 15th? Or is that basically the universal denial date?
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Not rare, but every day you are not notified is a day that the class is filling up. Although not the norm, some are even notified During The Month of May.
 
The BGO said DS interview said right up until the day before plebe summer you can get an offer. Sometimes offers that are initially accepted are declined due to personal circumstances in the lives of prospective mids, and the next name on the list gets a call and an offer. I'm sure the numbers are small, but when I starting thinking about things like a late offer from your preferred school, a positive pregnancy test or an advanced case of senioritis leading to a poor showing last semester of high school, I can imagine how there could be some openings after the fact.
 
Most of those turned down prior to late March are those who: (1) did not complete 100% of their packet, followed by (2) those who completed their packet but did not receive a nom and will not be offered NAPS/Foundation and (3) those who completed their packets and received a nom but were not 3Q'ed -- will not be offered NAPS/Foundation or will not be given a waiver for medical reasons. These turndowns typically occur in February and into March.

Those who are remain are 3Q with noms and those who are in the running for NAPS/Foundation. Historically, the overwhelming majority who get good news hear by around March 20. However, as correctly stated above, every year there are candidates who receive appointments up to April 15 and even later (if on the Wait List). That said, as noted, when you're in late March and don't have an appointment in hand, you are much more likely to receive a turndown or Wait List than an appointment -- at least that has been the case for at least the last decade.

On April 15, you will know your status. If you are WL'ed, then and only then do you still have a chance. Whether you come of the WL is almost exclusively driven by yield and most of those folks hear sometime in June. There have been cases of people being offered appointments at the "last minute," but they are quite rare.

To be very clear, it's NOT over until you receive the final news. However, if you are sitting around on March 31 with no news from USNA, be sure to be working very hard on other options. If USNA remains your first choice and comes through, terrific. If not, you have another great plan for your future.
 
usna1985 said:
Most of those turned down prior to late March are those who: (1) did not complete 100% of their packet, followed by (2) those who completed their packet but did not receive a nom and will not be offered NAPS/Foundation and (3) those who completed their packets and received a nom but were not 3Q'ed -- will not be offered NAPS/Foundation or will not be given a waiver for medical reasons. These turndowns typically occur in February and into March.

Those who are remain are 3Q with noms and those who are in the running for NAPS/Foundation. Historically, the overwhelming majority who get good news hear by around March 20. However, as correctly stated above, every year there are candidates who receive appointments up to April 15 and even later (if on the Wait List). That said, as noted, when you're in late March and don't have an appointment in hand, you are much more likely to receive a turndown or Wait List than an appointment -- at least that has been the case for at least the last decade.

On April 15, you will know your status. If you are WL'ed, then and only then do you still have a chance. Whether you come of the WL is almost exclusively driven by yield and most of those folks hear sometime in June. There have been cases of people being offered appointments at the "last minute," but they are quite rare.

To be very clear, it's NOT over until you receive the final news. However, if you are sitting around on March 31 with no news from USNA, be sure to be working very hard on other options. If USNA remains your first choice and comes through, terrific. If not, you have another great plan for your future.
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How much of the class do you think is filled prior to April 15th?
 
navy4040 said:
Wow, that means only a few students are accepted on April 15th, one more quick question: I see that about 20 students on here have been accepted, how many so far have been accepted do you think?
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For USNA, about 14% of the Appointments offered out are declined per Class cycle.

Here are some Statistics that are the basis of this calculation up thru the Class of 2019; I am too lazy to gather in the Class of 2020 stats.
 
Here you go @murfthesurf some different stats.
The Class of 2020 Appointment thread http://www.serviceacademyforums.com...of-2020-usna-appointment-thread.46706/page-45 had 128 reports. Of those 119 had dates. I used LOA date as the appointment date, and base on that data, here is the distribution of when LOA/Appointments were made.

Date -- # - - %
Sep - - 5 - - 4%
Oct - - 6 - - 5%
Nov - - 2 - - 2%
Dec - - 19 - - 16%
Jan - - 31 - - 26%
Feb - - 36 - - 30%
Mar - - 17 - - 14%
Apr - - 2 - - 2%
May - - 1 - - 1%
 
A relatively small number have been offered appointments as of now b/c MOC noms aren't due until Jan. 31 and most probably haven't been submitted. As the numbers above how, must appointments come in Jan (typically late in the month), Feb, and March (mostly early in the month). Of course, there are exceptions across the board.
 
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