AFOQT Book

Wingman789

Wingman789

AS300 - AFROTC
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Hello,

Anyone recommend a good AFOQT book for the new Form T test? The reviews on amazon are so hit or miss, and many have incorrect answers. Thanks.
 
Incorrect answers add more fun to the test. Its an extra roadblock for the time crunch you are practicing for.

But what do I know, I only had nearly all 90s on it.....
 
Your signature line states you are an AS300 why on earth would you want to take the AFOQT again? It is not superscore, or best scores...it is the last. That is a huge risk for your AFSC.
 
I need to improve my PCSM since it is the only available way of doing so before the board meets.
 
PCSM for rated? I am assuming it is because only 300s going rated will be boarded this yr. Non-rated meet in the fall of their 400 yr.

If so, than remember that your TBAS is going to be a factor along with flight hours. You could do better getting flight hours than spending time studying for the AFOQT because the TBAS is going to be more oriented towards flying and flight experience will help.
~ Granted flight hrs cost more money than taking the AFOQT.

The real question is how low was your AFOQT? As I stated earlier it is not the best sitting or superscore, but the last sitting. If your score was in the okay realm than it might be more dangerous to take it again from a PCSM aspect.

The rated board looks at alot more than just that AFOQT. What was your ranking out of SFT? What is your cgpa? What is your PFA? What is your CoC ranking? How many flight hours do you have? And of course what is right now unknown...what your TBAS will be.

You can easily get over an avg AFOQT if you are stellar in all of those other aspects. If you are saying that out of SFT you were the bottom 50%, and the bottom 50% for CoC ranking with a 3.0 cgpa (non-tech) and a 94 PFA, with no flight hours, than impo, your chances of getting a rated slot even if you get a 94+ on every portion of the AFOQT are slim to none.
~ Reason why is because just like getting an SFT slot it is a Whole Candidate Score system with points awarded by a percentage breakdown. IE. X% of the score is tied to those categories. If I recall correctly 40% is tied to the CoC ranking,. High ranking in the CoC portion will offset an eh AFOQT more than a high AFOQT with a meh CoC ranking due to the weighting is 2X more for that CoC portion of the scoring system.

The old adage is true...don't work harder, work smarter. There are no dirty purples for TBAS so I get trying to up the AFOQT, but working smarter means understanding where you really can impact your score. TBAS is secret regarding what are the questions on that test which means by getting more flight hours you can only increase that portion of your WCS for the rated.

* Dirty purples = old tests with answers. It goes back to something your folks remember as kids in school. Before there were printers to make copies, there was this funky machine known as a ditto machine where you would roll the original on carbon paper to make copies, eventually the black ink would become purple and your fingers turned purple because the ink was wet, hence dirty purples. The term dirty purples came from that because they would keep sharing and sharing along the way.
~~ Yes I am showing my age because I remember being a kid in elementary school and those mimeograph papers, and I even remember how they smelled. So sad that this generation will never know that smell or have purple fingers because of computers! HAHAHA!

If you are going non-rated than disregard my post.
 
Thanks for the advice Pima, and I could only wish there were dirty purples here! Yes, I am going rated, my stats are CGPA: 3.91 Non-Tech, 94 PFA, I would realistically say 2 or 3 out of 12 for CoC Rank, SFT 9/24 and 18 flight hours now but will have 21 by the end of the month for those few extra points. There's no way fiscally I can reach that 40+ mark by the suspense date of 3 Jan for the rated board. My pilot on the AFOQT was only a 32 which I know I can definitely do a lot better on now, so hence why I wanted to retake the test. I know I can still meet the minimums for commissioning in the math and verbal as well. I appreciate the help!
 
I remember that smell!! There is a scene in "Fast Times at Ridgemont High" where the whole class smells the test!
 
Wingman789 said:
Thanks for the advice Pima, and I could only wish there were dirty purples here! Yes, I am going rated, my stats are CGPA: 3.91 Non-Tech, 94 PFA, I would realistically say 2 or 3 out of 12 for CoC Rank, SFT 9/24 and 18 flight hours now but will have 21 by the end of the month for those few extra points. There's no way fiscally I can reach that 40+ mark by the suspense date of 3 Jan for the rated board. My pilot on the AFOQT was only a 32 which I know I can definitely do a lot better on now, so hence why I wanted to retake the test. I know I can still meet the minimums for commissioning in the math and verbal as well. I appreciate the help!
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So it seems like all but one of the factors that comprise your Order of Merit (OM) score have been solidified. The only thing you didn't provide was your PCSM score. Here is what your OM breakdown looks like:

CGPA - 3.91 - 9.775/10 PTS
PFA - 94 - 9.400/10 PTS
FT Ranking - 9.688/15 PTS
RSS (Relative Standing Score) - 2 of 12 - 21.875/25 PTS
PCSM - ??? - ??/40 PTS

PTS = Points

Your PCSM score determines 40% of your OM. When you compete in the rated board, everyone is racked and stacked by their OM score. Based on the past years' average stats, the average OM for pilot selects seems to hover right around 70. This means you ideally want to have a 48+ PCSM score. Given your 32 AFOQT-P score and 21-40 hour bracket, I'd estimate your PCSM to currently be around 23-32?

With all that said, boosting up your AFOQT-P to the 70+ range would significantly boost your PCSM and ultimately your OM. I estimate that getting around a 60-70 on the AFOQT-P combined with 21-40 flying hrs, should put you around that 48 PCSM range you need to be competitive.

I recently retook the AFOQT as an AS400 to be more competitive for ENJJPT selection. I originally had a 78 AFOQT-P and 21 flight hrs. This put me at a 72 PCSM. Combined with my other stats, the 72 was enough to get me a pilot slot back in Feb. Coming into the ENJJPT board I knew I had to be more competitive. I had originally taken the AFOQT S version since I had taken the test in 2012 before the T version. My pilot score had been converted from a 93 to a 78 after the AFOQT conversion. I was confident that if I retook the new T version, I could improve my score. After I retook the test, I scored a 99 on the pilot section. This boosted my PCSM from a 72 to an 86. This increased my OM to an 89.3 and thus I was indeed selected for ENJJPT.

Disclaimer: Retaking the AFOQT could potentially end VERY badly for you. Not only are you risking reducing your PCSM score and decreasing your selection chances, you could fail the test. Failing the test would deem you ineligible to commission and get you disenrolled from ROTC if your commander wouldn't approve a 3rd retake waiver (hard to get those).

If you do proceed with retaking the test then I'll leave you with the following advice:
Only four test sections affect your pilot score - Math Knowledge, Table Reading, Instrument Comprehension, and Aviation Information. So long as you do exceptional in these sections, you will get a high pilot score. The only source I used to study for the AFOQT was the official pamphlet on the AFPC website. It has practice tests for each subsection and has the most up to date information. Below is the link:

http://access.afpc.af.mil/pcsmdmz/Form T.html
 
OK, ready to be flamed, but I have to say it!

I know you all want that golden ticket to UPT. Get it, got it and have the tee shirt. However, that is the EASIEST part of the whole thing. Getting a slond winging are 2 different worlds.

UPT is not only academic, but also handling the stick and SA (situational awareness). 32 Pilot with 18 flight hrs?
~ No offense, but are you choking as a test taker?

Raimius's tag line has a link to life as a UPT student.

College is kindergarten compared to UPT. ROTC is middle school. UPT is 24/7 of you being told you are the worse students ever seen. Comical in my opinion bc seriously if each class is worse than the last, than what does that say?
~ That being said it is 54 weeks of breaking you down. It is 54 weeks of you showing up at 6 a.m., academics, sims and flying only to come home at 5-6 pm to eat while you either study or chair fly until 11 pm.
~ If my memory serves me correctly you will have to answer @800 test questions. That does not bode well if you say you are not a great test taker, but great at handling a stick. Vise a verse, great test taker and not good handling the stick, you are screwed too.
~~UPT, even at ENJJPT has never been 100%. 75% on a good day impo.
~~~ DSs class started with 28 for T6. 21 tracked to T38/6 . 7 washbacks were brought in to bring it back to 28. 21 winged. I am not even adding in the amount that washed out of IFS aka now IFT.

Just saying I am not trying to be Debbie Downer. Just trying to say when you wing, you will look back and say getting the slot was easy, getting the wings not so much, and you may turn and look back and say if I asked the folks that my birthday and holiday (xmas/hannukah) gifts were more flight hrs instead of a PS4 game I would have been better off because I had to land a plane during x-winds without the stress of an IP.
~ IPS will never be your friends. They will chew your butt so hard that when you sit down you will wonder if you still have a butt to sit on.
~~ Ask Stealth, Raimius, fencersmother or myself how often we heard from them as parents? If we saw their number on our caller id it was steel yourself...is this a good call or a bad call. I bet my life all of us had bad phone calls in that yr.

10 will get me 20 90% of you do not know what an 88 or 89 is. Again, I am not trying to be mean. I am being absolutely honest on what the future holds. It is also not just about you from the mental stress factor, but also watching those being shown the door.
~ DS commissioned with 13 rated. His closest friend, groomsmen (AFROTC grad from his unit) at his wedding (1 month after winging) was washed out 4 weeks before winging. His other friend washed out at IFS. Another washed out during T6. Irony was he was the non-tech major, they were all Tech. He had flight hrs, they didn't.
 
Wingman789 said:
Thanks for the advice Pima, and I could only wish there were dirty purples here! Yes, I am going rated, my stats are CGPA: 3.91 Non-Tech, 94 PFA, I would realistically say 2 or 3 out of 12 for CoC Rank, SFT 9/24 and 18 flight hours now but will have 21 by the end of the month for those few extra points. There's no way fiscally I can reach that 40+ mark by the suspense date of 3 Jan for the rated board. My pilot on the AFOQT was only a 32 which I know I can definitely do a lot better on now, so hence why I wanted to retake the test. I know I can still meet the minimums for commissioning in the math and verbal as well. I appreciate the help!
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But what is your PCSM now? The pilot portion of the AFOQT is only a part of that and otherwise you have great stats that will easily make up for the low score.
 
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