AFROTC Civil Involvement

asdf123

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Hey guys, I'm new to the site and wanted to hear your opinions/advice:

So here's the story, I'm currently an AS200 contracted scholarship cadet and had two incidents with the police but was not given any citation.

First was the May of 2018 (end of school year) where I was moving out of the dorm and had to go to the airport on the same day. I took a rental car to move out my stuff and because I was in a hurry I passed a stop sign without stopping. The officer pulled me over, I told him my flight is in a few hours, so he just gave me a verbal warning and let me go. (Showed my ID, don't know if that stays in the internal record).

Second one is more severe and happened a few weeks ago. I was accepted into an academic program that I really wanted and decided to celebrate with my girlfriend. My roommate offered me a beer so I grabbed two cans of beer (knowing that I am underage) and drove to a scenic area with my girlfriend at night. We parked, opened the cans, took 1 or 2 sips in the car, and then busted right away as if the officers were waiting for me. The officers were nice enough to give me a warning this time as well, directed me to throw away the cans immediately and told that although citation is not given, it will be recorded in the school's internal police records so that if it happens again I will be cited next time. They didn't even check for my BAC and just let me go (think they knew that we had 1 or 2 sips). I think this one will be recorded as underage drinking, underage possession of alcohol, DUI (car was parked so I don't know) or all. I really don't know how it's going to be recorded.

There is one more where I drove at night with high beam facing the police officer but I think this one is just straight up verbal warning (he did ask for my ID though and let me go saying don't do that).

Here's the issue. I had a term counseling today and the phrase "All civil involvements must be reported within 72 hours or by the start of the institutional classes for which they were cited or charged (a formal citation need not have been issued) by civil, military, or school authorities regardless of disposition or seeming insignificance." just popped into my eyes. I just completely forgot about these incidents in the past and now I am worried for not reporting it on time, or even, whether I should have reported it or not because they were not actually cited. Because I was so panicked, I just straight up told my captain everything (the first two incidents) and scheduled an appointment with my commander this Friday. I also reported it because I heard the guys doing security clearance will find out everything one way or the other and although I did not get any citation, the internal records within school police department are still there so I thought the chance of finding this out is high.

I know this could possibly mean dis-enrollment and cancellation of scholarship. I regret my actions but my emotions are also vague. For the second case, I know I made mistakes knowing that it was illegal so there is no excuse. At least I was honest about it but at the same time I just risked my dream of being a pilot and serving the Air Force. Did I do the right thing? Does moral come before your personal goals? I don't know, I guess I'll find out this week. Wish me luck and let me hear your opinion/advice. Thanks.
 

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You’re on the right track. The incidents don’t seem that serious, but you were right to report them nonetheless.
Now it’s time to face the music, you have laid your chips on the table and cleared your conscience.

They’re not looking for angels necessarily, just honest people with integrity and you seem to have that.
Best of luck to you!
 
I think you'll be OK. My son did worse and he hung on in NROTC. The very quiet verbal response from the PNS cut him to the bone though. Sometimes it's not an ass chewing that gets you.
 
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