Am I out?

[CKR2024]

My state senator named TWO principal nominations to the USAFA. Not feeling very good about my odds at this point. Anyone with any experience with this?

 

[txfwindian]

Assuming that you do not have a nom, you are still in race till the end. If your application is competitive and USAFA really really wants you, they will find a nom for you.

Hope you have applied for noms from cong, VP as well.

 

[702mom]

My state senator named TWO principal nominations to the USAFA. Not feeling very good about my odds at this point. Anyone with any experience with this?

How do you know they nominated 2 principals?

 

[CKR2024]

Its released in the newspaper, the senator makes a production of it. He does a ceremony for friends and families

 

[BBQ-Devil]

Did the Senator have 2 slots open? Each have 5 active slots so every 4th year they would have two slots. We had that with Senator Burr last year. He submitted 20 names.

 

[justdoit19]

Its released in the newspaper, the senator makes a production of it. He does a ceremony for friends and families

Does he include everyone on his slate in the ceremony? Or only the two principal nominees? And ‘ya never know...either of those may not be completely qualified, or could select another SA or college.

This doesn’t sit well with me. Unless the senator is already aware they are appointed, seems odd to hold a ceremony solely for the “nomination”. Most MOC’s that do the principal method don’t advertise it since they generally want to make as many people as happy as they can.

 

[MidCakePa]

Until you get a TWE, you are in the running. Many posts here about this very thing. If USAFA wants you, they’ll get you.

Simple example: DD had principal nomination for SA1, non-principal nomination for SA2, no nomination for SA3. When all was said and done, she had an offer of appointment for each SA. So it ain't over until it's over!

 

[jaglvr]

did you get a nomination from the Senator? he should still submit a slate of 10 and all you need is to be on the list. The principal if 3Q is in but you would still at least have a nom

 

[Senor_]

Depends on your Senator and how they handle the nomination process. They may announce 2 Principle candidates whilst sending out letters to the remaining slate. This may take time and I know for mine in the mail, it took awhile to get to my address. Just don't stress and remember to cover all bases before calling it quits!

 

[CKR2024]

Just t

Does he include everyone on his slate in the ceremony? Or only the two principal nominees? And ‘ya never know...either of those may not be completely qualified, or could select another SA or college.

This doesn’t sit well with me. Unless the senator is already aware they are appointed, seems odd to hold a ceremony solely for the “nomination”. Most MOC’s that do the principal method don’t advertise it since they generally want to make as many people as happy as they can.

Did the Senator have 2 slots open? Each have 5 active slots so every 4th year they would have two slots. We had that with Senator Burr last year. He submitted 20 names.

i don’t know I would assume yes. Last yr he only did one.

 

[CKR2024]

Assuming that you do not have a nom, you are still in race till the end. If your application is competitive and USAFA really really wants you, they will find a nom for you.

Hope you have applied for noms from cong, VP as well.

Yes I have a nom from him as well as a presidential

 

[CKR2024]

Does he include everyone on his slate in the ceremony? Or only the two principal nominees? And ‘ya never know...either of those may not be completely qualified, or could select another SA or college.

This doesn’t sit well with me. Unless the senator is already aware they are appointed, seems odd to hold a ceremony solely for the “nomination”. Most MOC’s that do the principal method don’t advertise it since they generally want to make as many people as happy as they can.

He is the only senator in our state that does "principal" nominations. They are basically golden tickets which is why he does a ceremony for it. He presented 2 to AFA, 1 to USMM, west point and naval. There are 40 others who got nominations between all 4 SA's but its not released which SA they were all nominated to.

 

[CKR2024]

did you get a nomination from the Senator? he should still submit a slate of 10 and all you need is to be on the list. The principal if 3Q is in but you would still at least have a nom

Yes I do have a nom from him

 

[CKR2024]

Depends on your Senator and how they handle the nomination process. They may announce 2 Principle candidates whilst sending out letters to the remaining slate. This may take time and I know for mine in the mail, it took awhile to get to my address. Just don't stress and remember to cover all bases before calling it quits!

I do have a nom from him, but seems pointless as barring any medical or other issues those two will get his open spots by law they have to take the two principal noms

 

[Heatherg21]

I do have a nom from him, but seems pointless as barring any medical or other issues those two will get his open spots by law they have to take the two principal noms

It is not pointless, do not give up! You have a nom, and a presidential nom option. You cannot possibly know how the SA's will select and charge appointments.
Our DS is classic example, it warped my brain. He had a principle from Senator 2 and competitive nom from Senator 1.

Got a nice phone call from Senator 1 indicating he had received an appointment to USNA and the Senator's office was given the appointment info and happy to call and let him know. We were baffled. He was totally blown away, really expected the name of the Senator who had designated the principle nom to be the one on the phone call, not the one where he was 1 of 10 on a slate.

BUT it means that someone on that principal Senator 2 slate was someone they wanted and they charge noms in such a way that they can build the class they need. Try not to overthink it, you completed the best application you could, you applied for noms available to you. Now, as hard as it is, fingers crossed, you wait. I know it is not fun, and easier to say than do. Enjoy your senior year, and if the news doesn't come that you want to hear, you should have a solid plan B in place and reapply if you so choose. Don't give up!

 

[kinnem]

Jeez... you have 2 lottery tickets, 1 more than many folks have. You dont know who the principal noms will be charged to, so you could still get in on the Senators slate. You also have the Presidential as a way to get an appointment. Also, with the Senators nom you could still get appointed off the NWL.

There is nothing you can do about the way it is and you are clearly still in the running for an appointment. Quit wasting time and energy on this and go do something fun or productive

 

[CKR2024]

It is not pointless, do not give up! You have a nom, and a presidential nom option. You cannot possibly know how the SA's will select and charge appointments.
Our DS is classic example, it warped my brain. He had a principle from Senator 2 and competitive nom from Senator 1.

Got a nice phone call from Senator 1 indicating he had received an appointment to USNA and the Senator's office was given the appointment info and happy to call and let him know. We were baffled. He was totally blown away, really expected the name of the Senator who had designated the principle nom to be the one on the phone call, not the one where he was 1 of 10 on a slate.

BUT it means that someone on that principal Senator 2 slate was someone they wanted and they charge noms in such a way that they can build the class they need. Try not to overthink it, you completed the best application you could, you applied for noms available to you. Now, as hard as it is, fingers crossed, you wait. I know it is not fun, and easier to say than do. Enjoy your senior year, and if the news doesn't come that you want to hear, you should have a solid plan B in place and reapply if you so choose. Don't give up!

Thank you for taking the time to reach out it means a lot