Anti-affirmative action group sues Naval Academy over race-based admissions policies | CNN Politics
The US Naval Academy was sued Thursday over its use of race in its admissions practices by the same anti-affirmative action group whose lawsuits against Harvard and the University of North Carolina led the Supreme Court to declare race-based admissions policies unlawful earlier this year.amp.cnn.com
... so here are some stats 2023 to 2027.
Year/Class Size/White.
2027/1175/633.
2026/1184/676.
2025/1183/672.
2024/1194/855.
2023/1181/696.
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... so where do I begin, highly charge issue. Since we're all anonymous here and probably have a kid(s) in the yard, I'll start with my .02 cents. Apologized in advance if I sound off with political incorrect views. I'm going to use my DS '26 as an example. If this knuckle head Anti-Affirmative Group wins, then the follow on class size will be loaded with prep school grads from all over with tuition from K-12 to the tune of $25,000-63,000 annually. I know this for a fact because my DS has a roommate in HS who paid for a shoe costing $2000.00. Also, one of his classmates travels in a private jet. With my DS, I paid for tutoring in Physics, Chemistry, Calculus. For SAT, he took 5 total starting in Sophomore year. There's also a SAT prep course every Saturday for 4 hours. Why I did this?? I was in Iraq when he was 3 years old. Daily, one of my duties was to enter two hardcore villages, as in crazy hardcore insurgents. My lead vehicle was a M1 Abrams Main Battle Tank. My friend, a tanker, labelled the area as a "target rich environment." Make the long story short, I basically accepted death daily. So I promised myself if I make it home alive that I will take care of DS no matter what the cost... by the way he is visiting this weekend after the six week exams, so lots of cooking in the house.
Good thing you have plenty of motrin.I just read this entire thread.
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.Good thing you have plenty of motrin.
People with different social and cultural experiences provide diversity, which is needed in the fleet.I personally find that race-based admission process helps nobody at the end, although racial bias exists prevalently everywhere including in academic institutions.
This.People with different social and cultural experiences provide diversity, which is needed in the fleet.
It's not a choice any of us gets to make.In my house, we are not WASP, we are not upper middle-class and we’re not from suburbia.
We pretty much live by 2 rules:
1. Work hard
2. Be nice
I do not want to be judged by gender, race, religion or political persuasion!
Treat and judge us as individuals without bias.
It is naive to think you act without bias. We judge each other all the time by all of those things and more. I don't want to be judged, I want to be understood. When you understand me, you can be a better leader for me. When I can understand you, I can better understand how to treat you.In my house, we are not WASP, we are not upper middle-class and we’re not from suburbia.
We pretty much live by 2 rules:
1. Work hard
2. Be nice
I do not want to be judged by gender, race, religion or political persuasion!
Treat and judge us as individuals without bias.
If I am an enlisted person, I want the most qualified people possible in SNCO and Officer positions. My ass is on the line...if diversity is even remotely my first priority, I should remain in the civilian world. Maybe I am just a jarhead, but I am trusting my SCNO's and Officers to make the best decision possible so maybe I don't come home in a box. Diversity can be a good thing, if shortcuts are not taken that many times end in disastrous results. Frankly, there is a perfect solution to increase diversity in the Officer ranks..it starts with ending the ridiculous rule that an Officer is required to have a college degree. There are tons of squared away Sailors and Marines (of all colors and ethnicities) that would make excellent Officers. Instead of finding ways to retain and show them a path forward, they usually end up leaving at the 4 or 6 year mark. I can't speak to the Navy, but I know that the Marines lose about 75% after their first enlistment. Some of them, I am sure the Marine Corps is happy to see them go, but there are also a ton that are great assets. If a culture is going to be fixed, the first thing that needs to change is the revolving door.This.
Say what you want in this little echo chamber, but it has been my experience that Sailors do indeed care about diversity and representation in gender, race, and socioeconomic background when they look at the wardroom.
Female sailors are more comfortable with female officers. Asian sailors seek mentorship from Asian officers and CPOs. Muslim sailors look to Muslim officers for advice. Sailors feel a connection to officers from the same hometown. It happens. There is value in those relationships built upon common ground, even if that common ground is race, gender, or religion.
Never at the expense of leadership ability and professional competency, but it's not like the USNA valedictorian is guaranteed to be the best officer in the class. Graduating first in the class at ADOC or Dahlgren means you'll be the best TAO on the ship, right? Since when did academic performance equate to professional competency like that?
There is something lost when we build an officer corps that is exceedingly male, WASP, from upper middle-class suburbia. As with many things, either extreme is bad. Last I checked, we're headed towards an officer corps that isn't even remotely close to the composition of our enlisted ranks.
There's something to having a varied array of talents and perspectives. But also, in a life-death situation who do you want sitting in the flight station or standing OOD for example? Presumably you'd want to know that they were selected for their position based solely on their performance and competence, no matter what they look like or what their personal beliefs are. We can recognize the value of diversity without compromising selection standards.It's not a choice any of us gets to make.
At the end of the day the weapons systems and platforms don't matter--we work with people. People have problems. Officers solve problems. We want these people to come to us with their problems to solve. Differing perspectives, experience, and backgrounds helps diversify thinking, personal values, and ultimately problem-solving.
Some of the most approachable officers for junior sailors are the Mustangs. They have a common background as enlisted. They have relatable experiences. The perspective and approach to problem-solving is markedly different.
The guy that's only ever known high school and fancy college at the boat school and has never lived in barracks is missing something.