APFT at Beast

MrSTOCK

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My FFR confirmed that the class of 2025 will be taking the APFT at Beast, as seen in the 1st admissible mailing.

What he told me: “the APFT - - not the ACFT - - will be the physical fitness testing format at CBT. If you are wondering why USMA is using a test that is not being used by the Army, all I can say is ‘Welcome to West Point.’”.

Adjust training plans accordingly, as it greatly differs from the ACFT.
 
prospective2019 said:
That's very odd--we take the ACFT here every semester. Do not forego preparation for the ACFT, as you will take it eventually here. Prepping for the ACFT will benefit your APFT, but not particularly the other way around.
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Likely since it takes less time to conduct, especially with ~1200 new cadets. Though that is very true. When during the first semester do cadets take the ACFT?
 
There’s discussion in the force of making the APFT test of record again until the Congressional studies are complete on the ACFT to allow commanders the ability to hold folks actually accountable for their physical fitness this next fiscal year but the ACFT right now isn’t going away so not surprising if West Point falls in the same boat.

Training for the ACFT will allow you to do well on the APFT. It isn’t necessarily the same if you only train for the APFT. Just be cognizant, particularly for men, the run standards under the APFT are stricter than the ACFT.
 
MrSTOCK said:
Likely since it takes less time to conduct, especially with ~1200 new cadets. Though that is very true. When during the first semester do cadets take the ACFT?
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They did a modified ACFT last CBT, and test 1000 cadets every weekend. They wouldn't forego it for a logistical reason.

I took it in October last semester, and March this semester.
Cookiemom said:
My son and his friends, firsties, say the new test is much easier. Different.
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Easier to pass, much much harder to max. There have been only a few dozen cadets here to max the ACFT (all male, mind you). You were generally looked at funny for not maxing the APFT, which I could not. I do better on the ACFT for a female cadet because I am stronger than I am good with endurance, so it favors me. But many of my peers would much rather take the APFT.
 
The APFT is not built for the heavy lifters, its weighted toward the smaller lean type physique. It always amazed me that some of the strongest men when it came to rucking and generally carrying heavy loads sucked so bad at the 2 mile run. The ACFT is obviously going to change that!
 
Interesting. During Beast for Prepster we took the ACFT, and have took it about 5 times since then.
 
What's the big difference between the two?

Edit: I saw the standards for it on one of the forms that just went out but it didn't have anything about the procedure like how much time you get between the events so if you that too it would be great.
 
SF_DAD said:
The APFT is not built for the heavy lifters, its weighted toward the smaller lean type physique. It always amazed me that some of the strongest men when it came to rucking and generally carrying heavy loads sucked so bad at the 2 mile run. The ACFT is obviously going to change that!
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That and the height/weight standards. Over my career I knew several studs who had low BMI but had to get “pinch tested” each year. For a while the pinch test was a kiss of death for commissioned officers, so these guys would have to go on starvation diets before weigh in so they would meet the “standards”. It was the marathon mafia running things.
 
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