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Hey everyone, I have a few questions regarding AROTC. I am currently applying for the Army ROTC National Scholarship.

Couldn't find definitive answers using the search function


1. Regarding the scholarships, does selecting a Major give ANY advantage/disadvantage in getting the scholarship? I know it does in NROTC and AFROTC. I just want to know the scope.

2. What is the average SAT score for 4 year winners?

3. Do you have to contact a PMS or do they contact you for the interview?
 
  1. Army ROTC does not care what your major is, with the exception of the Nursing program. In recent times, there has been a small advantage to STEM majors but it is nothing in comparison to the STEM focus of NROTC and AFROTC. The general rule for Army ROTC is to major in something you are both interested in and have an aptitude for. Doing well is the most important thing and you will be more likely to excel if you are interested and passionate about the major.
  2. Here is a post from the UNG Army ROTC website:
    Army Cadet Command looks at three areas of performance in what they term Scholar/Athlete/Leader (SAL) criteria.
    The more extensive your leadership record in these activities, the better your chances. The Cadet Command selection board makes decisions based on the strength of your application compared to the applicant pool. The profile for the 2018 academic year nation-wide recipients:

    95% were in the top 50% of their classes in academics (71% were in the top 25%)
    26% were class officers
    79% earned varsity sports letters
    63% were varsity team sports captains
    25% were in JROTC
    19% were club presidents
    3.7 average GPA
    1321 math + critical reading SAT
  3. According to @clarksonarmy, an Army ROO, you won't be prompted to do interview until you submit transcripts and test grades. Once you do your status will change to "interviewee". Once that happens you should reach out to a school to schedule your interview. Scheduling that interview is on you. At that point, contact the nearest college or university that has an Army ROTC program to schedule it. Your interview results will be recorded and made available to the school you interviewed at, plus all schools listed on your scholarship application.
Sources:
https://www.serviceacademyforums.com/index.php?threads/arotc-scholarship-steps.50651/
https://ung.edu/military-college-ad...larships-and-grants/army-rotc-scholarship.php
 
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As AROTC-dad pointed out, Cadet Command looks at the whole person. Don't be fixated on the average GPA and Test Scores, of course the higher the better a lot will depend on how well rounded you are as an applicant. Leadership and Athletics can help make up for GPA and test scores that don't meet the average, but if your lacking in one of the other areas then they will play a larger part in your application.

My younger son was one of those that did not have the GPA and test scores that met that average, he was stronger in other areas that helped to make up for it. Below is the resume he had when he applied.


Resume High School AROTC Scholarship Application

Academics
GPA 3.5 u/w
ACT 24
National Honor Society

Debate Team 11, 12

School Yearbook Publication
Sports Editor 11
Editor in Chief 12

360 hours Community Service
Presidential Service Award

School Band 9, 10, 11, 12
Wind Ensemble 12
Jazz Band 9, 10, 11
Marching Band 9, 10, 11, 12
Section leader 11, 12

Athletics
Cross Country
JV 9
Varsity 10, 11, 12
State Meet 10, 11, 12
Team Captain

Track and Field
JV 9
Varsity 10, 11, 12
State 11,12
Team Captain

Senior League Baseball 9, 10

Boy Scouts
Eagle Scout
Senior Patrol Leader 2 terms

King County Youth Court
Juror 10
Head Juror 11
Youth Court Judge 12

YMCA Youth in Government
Senator 10, 11

Youth Group 9, 10, 11, 12
Senior Leader 11, 12
Mission trip to work on school in Mexico 10
Leader for Mission trip to build house in Mexico 11

Advanced Scuba Certified

He received a 4 year Scholarship on the first board to 4 schools. A well rounded application can help fill in weaker areas, make sure you keep track and list everything you have done in school and outside of school.
 
Jcleppe said:
He received a 4 year Scholarship on the first board to 4 schools.
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Congrats!!

If you get the scholarship and choose for it to pay tuition and fees, is there a cap to how much the army will pay for you for each year? Lets say if you go to U Chicago, which costs a fortune, does the army pick up the full tab?


I have another complex question regarding the boards: (i'm only applying to a public, instate state-school.)

Lets say I complete my application for the first board with a 1260 SAT (26 ACT equivalent), 3.89 GPA, and a bunch of quality ECs, good PFA scores, and a good interview, and have 1 of 3 of these results:

1. I get a 4 year scholarship (yay!)
2. I don't receive a scholarship and must wait for next 2 boards.
3. Only get a 3 year scholarship




can I improve my SAT score if I end up with 3rd result to try to replace my 3 year to a 4 year? (or do they even offer 3 year scholarships on first two boards?)

Thanks!
 
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Yes, that is the great thing about Army scholarships - they pay the full tuition! And, if you are open to looking at other schools, there are quite a few that also provide free room and board to any branch of ROTC scholarship recipients. They do this to attract those outstanding students to their schools.
 
Jcleppe said:
As AROTC-dad pointed out, Cadet Command looks at the whole person. Don't be fixated on the average GPA and Test Scores, of course the higher the better a lot will depend on how well rounded you are as an applicant. Leadership and Athletics can help make up for GPA and test scores that don't meet the average, but if your lacking in one of the other areas then they will play a larger part in your application.

My younger son was one of those that did not have the GPA and test scores that met that average, he was stronger in other areas that helped to make up for it. Below is the resume he had when he applied.


Resume High School AROTC Scholarship Application

Academics
GPA 3.5 u/w
ACT 24
National Honor Society

Debate Team 11, 12

School Yearbook Publication
Sports Editor 11
Editor in Chief 12

360 hours Community Service
Presidential Service Award

School Band 9, 10, 11, 12
Wind Ensemble 12
Jazz Band 9, 10, 11
Marching Band 9, 10, 11, 12
Section leader 11, 12

Athletics
Cross Country
JV 9
Varsity 10, 11, 12
State Meet 10, 11, 12
Team Captain

Track and Field
JV 9
Varsity 10, 11, 12
State 11,12
Team Captain

Senior League Baseball 9, 10

Boy Scouts
Eagle Scout
Senior Patrol Leader 2 terms

King County Youth Court
Juror 10
Head Juror 11
Youth Court Judge 12

YMCA Youth in Government
Senator 10, 11

Youth Group 9, 10, 11, 12
Senior Leader 11, 12
Mission trip to work on school in Mexico 10
Leader for Mission trip to build house in Mexico 11

Advanced Scuba Certified

He received a 4 year Scholarship on the first board to 4 schools. A well rounded application can help fill in weaker areas, make sure you keep track and list everything you have done in school and outside of school.
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@Jcleppe ,

You didn’t mention anything about sleeping.

Goes to show that the opposite of “idle hands are the work of the devil” is true.
 
23Lt said:
can I improve my SAT score if I end up with 3rd result to try to replace my 3 year to a 4 year? (or do they even offer 3 year scholarships on first two boards?)
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This is a good question. Does anyone know?
 
Tptb518 said:
This is a good question. Does anyone know?
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After you receive an offer you can’t change that offer with better SAT/ACT scores. There are a small handful of 3AD offers that get upgraded to 4 years after the last board, but it usually is based on where you ranked on the order of merit, and how many 3AD/4 year offers have been allocated. It can’t hurt to send new SAT scores, but they will have very little impact on your overall score. You may be that kid that is right on the cut line and your 10 point improvement gets you that upgrade, but other than submitting your new scores there is very little you can do to effect that outcome.

Hope that makes sense.
 
clarksonarmy said:
Tptb518 said:
This is a good question. Does anyone know?
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After you receive an offer you can’t change that offer with better SAT/ACT scores. There are a small handful of 3AD offers that get upgraded to 4 years after the last board, but it usually is based on where you ranked on the order of merit, and how many 3AD/4 year offers have been allocated. It can’t hurt to send new SAT scores, but they will have very little impact on your overall score. You may be that kid that is right on the cut line and your 10 point improvement gets you that upgrade, but other than submitting your new scores there is very little you can do to effect that outcome.

Hope that makes sense.
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So would you suggest I just send in an application for the first board with a 1260 even though I think I’ll be able to get it up to a 1350 in a few months?


What I’m asking is should I wait to send my application in with a better SAT score to give myself more chances for a 4 year instead of a 3 year? Is an upgrade from 1260 to 1350 a large point increase?
 
I would say you are a first boarder. The main reason not to apply first board is if your scores won’t give you max points on your PMS interview. You only get looked at by the board, and interviewed one time. If you subsequently change your scores your interview and board scores won’t change. Your score is high enough that you get the SAT points, and the board should look favorably on a 1260.
 
These are my sons stats ; he was a 4 year winner on the second board.
1300 SAT, 26 ACT, 3.6 GPA, AP classes as a Junior and senior. Worked part time, was a 4 year member of US Naval Sea Cadet Programs and had multiple trainings with them, Attended Boys State as a Junior, Played Football 3 years in high school, wrestled all four years, played rugby for 2 years. He had met the ROTC guy a few times before the interview. His PT scores were excellent and he had very good recommendations. He kept on top of his application constantly and did everything required immediately. His application was complete before the first board.
 
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