BEAT NAVY!!!

+1 to the book reco from @usna1985. I read it many years ago and to this day, I recall the hilarious passage in which the Army captain, Jim Canteloupe, explains the origins of his family name during mealtime at Plebe Summer.
 
Smack talk. A difficult topic. Smack should almost never be delivered online unless the "recipient" knows you very well and will realize it's just good natured smack talk. I do a little here on SAF but only with folks I've "known" for years. So, as a general rule, smack talk should only be delivered face-to-face.

I can't say I ever was good at delivering smack talk regarding football. My forte was golf and I learned at the feet of former military aviators who were in their 70s and 20 years older than me. They were masters of the art. They almost never aimed their smack talk directly at anyone. it was more like, after sinking a long putt, saying "Any questions?". Or after a long drive saying, "Clinic is at 5 PM". These lines are always best delivered by your partner and in fact, they lose a little something when delivered by the guy who did it as it comes off as braggadocio. I remember hearing a 5 minute lecture when I uttered the appropriate line after sinking a long putt. I never made that mistake again! :D

I'm sure someone could make a small fortune writing a book about smack talk.
 
I smack talk with a Senior Chief friend of mine all the time. That guy cracks me up, because he delivers the crayon-eater insults with such a deadpan look, it is something to behold.
 
jebdad said:
I just want to understand this comment a bit more fully and this is an honest question seeking an honest answer from those who have served. As a parent of multiple cadets, should I have refrained from any friendly banter while I was in Philly this past weekend because I have a civilian vocation and did not attend USMA/USNA or work for the Army or Navy? Does wearing WP or USNA gear as a parent appear distasteful to those that served while I did not? I don't want to be that guy buy never really saw it that way.
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> My view , by all means buy and wear the gear (the Midstore (and I presume West Point store) supports the Midshipmen and Cadets programs, so spend as much money as you want , and show spirit and support for your team. However, don't trash talk or disparage the other services.....until you've been there.
 
:popcorn1:I just grabbed the "feed bag with ear hooks" sized popcorn.
 
I know this may be sort of a stretch towards the original post, but it did spark a recent question I had asked myself. As someone who’s never served in the military, do I have any right to call out stolen valor? I met someone online today claiming he was a quote: “Staff Sargent in the Texas Reserv National Guard”, that gave off an unrejecting notion of stolen valor, due to many things such as not being able to spell “Sergeant” correctly. I was wondering if it would be out of line for me, as a civilian, to remark that he’s out of line, and should not claim he’s something when he’s not.
 
The shlocky Army-Navy openings are getting to be a bit much. The first time they did the kind that makes you cry, the 2009 Harrison Ford one, it felt real. Now they are hiring actors to be a part of them, in addition to actual SA families, and they just feel so fake. They need to take it in a new direction and stop recycling the old idea. The Harrison Ford one is still my absolute favorite!

I’m all in for Army, but I’m also a Navy fan 364 days a year!
 
KilroyWasHere said:
I know this may be sort of a stretch towards the original post, but it did spark a recent question I had asked myself. As someone who’s never served in the military, do I have any right to call out stolen valor? I met someone online today claiming he was a quote: “Staff Sargent in the Texas Reserv National Guard”, that gave off an unrejecting notion of stolen valor, due to many things such as not being able to spell “Sergeant” correctly. I was wondering if it would be out of line for me, as a civilian, to remark that he’s out of line, and should not claim he’s something when he’s not.
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I certainly wouldn't do it on the basis of a spelling or even a typing error regardless of whether or mot I was ever in the military. I'll leave it to others to address the rest of your question.
 
I only cheer for Navy when they play Notre Dame. Otherwise, never. That’s mostly a result of their behavior over the length of their long winning streak over Army. I will never forgive it.

As for someone who’s just as likely to be a graduate as he is to quit day one of Beast? Not entitled to “hate” Navy or talk like he’s part of the club.

Don’t waste time on stolen valor. Never worth it. Even when they show up here and con everyone into believing they’re a legless Marine.
 
KilroyWasHere said:
I know this may be sort of a stretch towards the original post, but it did spark a recent question I had asked myself. As someone who’s never served in the military, do I have any right to call out stolen valor? I met someone online today claiming he was a quote: “Staff Sargent in the Texas Reserv National Guard”, that gave off an unrejecting notion of stolen valor, due to many things such as not being able to spell “Sergeant” correctly. I was wondering if it would be out of line for me, as a civilian, to remark that he’s out of line, and should not claim he’s something when he’s not.
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There is a group of volunteers out there who do nothing but track those people down and out them for what they are. You could get them on it. I am sure that they would be glad to help. They come up pretty front-and-center on a Google search. It is a .com address - and I think posting the link would be against the rules - so not gonna do that. At least I think it is, because I got a PM from TacticalNuke once that told me "Don't do that". ;)

You're talking about someone you "met" online, however. You don't know who these people are. It could be some 12-year-old kid in their Mom's basement. My two cents.
 
He had a youtube with a face cam and he looked to be ~30. I will look into those websites, and possibly put it out there, thanks for the insight.

Also, @kinnem, that was just one of the many errors I noticed, I would not make such a judgement call based on such non-substantial information.

Thanks for the feedback!
 
MidCakePa said:
@jebdad, nothing wrong with wearing your kid’s colors proudly and loudly. All the better to have good-natured and respectful banter with the other side. And plenty of fun to cheer crazily in support of your team. I did all those things last weekend in Philly. All good!

Where it gets distasteful is when people talk down to the other side, insult them, talk smack, express “hatred” (even if it’s in quotes) as @Yankee23 did. Maybe you get a bit more leeway if you actually attend or graduated from an academy, but not much more. What impressed me about the hyper-passionate West Pointers around me last weekend is that they always cheered for their team, not against the other one.
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Sounds like you may have been in my section. There were a number of young drunk old grads there having some fun!
 
pallen92x said:
You folks have sprung a leak...lol...Love the cover pic!

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...sprung-leaks-as-its-aging-campus-deteriorates
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Actually that is way outside of the purview of the Naval Academy itself. Facilities on a Navy wide basis have been starved to keep maximum funding on deployable assets and facilities are just not a high priority. Congress and the people that USNA report to put great emphasis on Cyber and that is why they funded a new building (Hopper Hall) where cyber can be properly taught. However, the appropriation was for the building itself and did not include furnishing. The Alumni assoc was asked to fund this necessary expense and is doing so.
 
Preventive maintenance (PM) funds are always the first to be cut at almost any facility. And, as anyone who has ever owned a house or car knows, if you don't do PM, eventually it catches up with you.

The Alumni assoc was asked to fund this necessary expense and is doing so.
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Just to clarify. The USNA Foundation was asked to raise funds to "furnish" the building and also to fund endowed chairs for professors. The money itself comes from private donors, including individuals (primarily grads) and corporations, not from the Alumni Association itself. (Don't want anyone to be under the misimpression that the money they spend to support Shipmate, etc., is being diverted to the Cyber building).
 
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